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We bought the bulk of our Morderna vaccine late (after approval) and some in September when it looked as though it would be approved fairly early. Nothing to do with buying with EU countries.
Our eggs were with 4 other vaccines one of which has been approved another that will be approved soon and another roughly in March. Only one will probably be bought put passed on to third world countries.
 
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Yep I’m fine you idiot as are the vest fucking majority of the country. Wake up and smell the coffee. Fucking bowing down to a clueless government who don’t know their ass from their elbow brain washing people with shite about bubbles. These arent bubbles. These are your mum, your dad, your gran, your brother. The people you share DNA with, the people you shared food with, that gave birth to you and the government have managed to convince you in 9 months these are now the most dangerous people you can come in contact with. Get a grip. Your own family are going to be much cleaner and safer than some stranger at work that you have worked with for the whole of 2020 and you are still here now to tell the tale yet in one day you are going to end your family. Yeah right pull the other one
Being absolutely clueless, was that your inspiration for your username?
 
Professor Neil Ferguson has said there have been "anecdotal reports" of "more explosive" outbreaks of the coronavirus in schools in the London and the south east in recent weeks.

These are the areas where the new strain of the coronavirus is most prevalent.

Earlier this month, education secretary Gavin Williamson ordered the Royal Borough of Greenwich in London to keep schools open after the council had urged them to shut.


The scientists appearing at the Science and Technology Committee are now “almost certain” that the new variant of the virus has a higher transmission rate. But they’re still not sure why.

Professor Peter Horby, chair of the NERVTAG advisory committee outlined three possibilities:

- It results in a higher viral load in infected people so they pass it on more easily. There is preliminary evidence of this.

- People become infectious more quickly after being exposed. If they don’t have symptoms they could unwittingly pass the virus on.

- People are infectious for longer, so there is a greater chance of coming into contact with other people, perhaps after they have stopped isolating.

But the end result is the same. It spreads faster.

This is going on now on news channels, very interesting

With respect Karen that idiot Neil Ferguson hasn't got a clue and is constantly and consistently wrong with what he says.
This is a guy who broke covid rules in May to see his married lover.
This is a guy who over estimated massively the figures on bird flu, BSE, Foot and Mouth and swine Flu.
And now hes doing the same thing with Covid.
Why the media keep giving this idiot air time is beyond comprehension.
I believe he does still sit on some commities and the government still seem to be still listening to him, if so its disgraceful and a sign the government has lost control of this crisis.
 
With respect Karen that idiot Neil Ferguson hasn't got a clue and is constantly and consistently wrong with what he says.
This is a guy who broke covid rules in May to see his married lover.
This is a guy who over estimated massively the figures on bird flu, BSE, Foot and Mouth and swine Flu.
And now hes doing the same thing with Covid.
Why the media keep giving this idiot air time is beyond comprehension.
I believe he does still sit on some commities and the government still seem to be still listening to him, if so its disgraceful and a sign the government has lost control of this crisis.

Can’t understand why he still gets any airtime, even more surprised that seemingly clued up people on here ever post anything with any of his quotes as if they bear any weight. The guy is a prick of the highest order.
 
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Sadly as of my update last night Tameside - the best in GM - was 130. It has been rising daily and was 87 a week ago.

Almost everywhere in GM is well up on where they were in the 5 day old data the government use which imo is not enough to base things on given this is a pandemic now facing a new variant that spreads like wildfire.

By the time they wake up there will be so many infected it will take many weeks of misery more to get under control.

Dither and delay in the current stage of this pandemic is unacceptable. They are obviously desperate not to go back on their word over Christmas, A hasty announcement made far too early given they presumably knew investigations into the new strain was ongoing. Though I get the need to try to give people Christmas as the likelihood is many would just do it anyway as the tiers do bot stop that very easily.

But they have to act swiftly now as not doing will just compound the previous mistakes.

I get the feeling they are finally seeing this and starting to accept lockdown over tiers is the way to go. I hope so based on comments on BBC Breakfast this morning by one minister who outright expressed the possibility tiers might NOT be enough. At last.
A good analysis of the situation as always, I 100% agree, there's never been firm enough control, China got a grip and my mate was subject to a nigh on 4 months lockdown in Melbourne because around 25 people died. A block of apartments which housed refugees had an outbreak and was guarded by the Army, no one in or out but supplies delivered and essential medical aid obviously allowed. We have 25 times that number of deaths in one day and still we dither, desperate situation.
 
Professor Neil Ferguson has said there have been "anecdotal reports" of "more explosive" outbreaks of the coronavirus in schools in the London and the south east in recent weeks.

These are the areas where the new strain of the coronavirus is most prevalent.

Earlier this month, education secretary Gavin Williamson ordered the Royal Borough of Greenwich in London to keep schools open after the council had urged them to shut.


The scientists appearing at the Science and Technology Committee are now “almost certain” that the new variant of the virus has a higher transmission rate. But they’re still not sure why.

Professor Peter Horby, chair of the NERVTAG advisory committee outlined three possibilities:

- It results in a higher viral load in infected people so they pass it on more easily. There is preliminary evidence of this.

- People become infectious more quickly after being exposed. If they don’t have symptoms they could unwittingly pass the virus on.

- People are infectious for longer, so there is a greater chance of coming into contact with other people, perhaps after they have stopped isolating.

But the end result is the same. It spreads faster.

This is going on now on news channels, very interesting
Why the fuck is anyone still listening to Ferguson the knob head. He fucked it up badly, His stats calculation methods have been proven to be shit and it takes a virus mutation to make the virus spread at two thirds the rate (i.e. Less) that he originally predicted.
 
Can’t understand why he still gets any airtime, even more surprised that seemingly clued up people on here ever post anything with any of his quotes as if they bear any weight. The guy is a prick of the highest order.

Yes his past history confirms he plucks figures out of the air with no substance
 
I thought my coughing and sore throat, bad as it is/was, would be the end of it.

I can't quite explain what happened to me when I went to bed last night, it was like some bizarre out-of-body-experience.

I was asleep for about an hour when I jumped awake with a horrible metallic taste in my mouth?

I couldn't believe it, soaked head-to-toe in ice-cold sweat, like I'd been for a cold shower in my T-shirt.

I'd no temperature, didn't feel hot, whatsoever, but spent the rest of the night with the shivers.

I'm in front of my desk today, never really have sick days, but there is little snap in my legs.

I consider myself pretty fit, but it just goes to show how it can grab a hold quickly even after four days in.

I'm even more fully appreciative now how easy it is to kill older people or those who have underlying health conditions.

My wife is still tired but my 13-year-old boy is pretty much back on form after nine days in for their own positive results.

We are all out of a 16-day isolation on New Year's Eve. There is hopefully some symbolism I want to take from that...

Stay safe my fellow Blue Mooners. I've made more friends on this board during the last ten months, than I have in ten years in my 'normal' day-to-day life.

They say you find out who your true friends are when the chips are down, I've since discovered all these people I've worked alongside down the years are only there if you can remain useful to them.

Have a wonderful Christmas, best you can, knowing I will see many of you for the first time in hopefully a brighter 2021.

x
Get well soon Tolm.
The metallic taste was truely a bizarre symptom.
I'm sorry to say that you will feel like you have been badly beaten up tomorrow and for quite a few days after that.
 
I thought my coughing and sore throat, bad as it is/was, would be the end of it.

I can't quite explain what happened to me when I went to bed last night, it was like some bizarre out-of-body-experience.

I was asleep for about an hour when I jumped awake with a horrible metallic taste in my mouth?

I couldn't believe it, soaked head-to-toe in ice-cold sweat, like I'd been for a cold shower in my T-shirt.

I'd no temperature, didn't feel hot, whatsoever, but spent the rest of the night with the shivers.

I'm in front of my desk today, never really have sick days, but there is little snap in my legs.

I consider myself pretty fit, but it just goes to show how it can grab a hold quickly even after four days in.

I'm even more fully appreciative now how easy it is to kill older people or those who have underlying health conditions.

My wife is still tired but my 13-year-old boy is pretty much back on form after nine days in for their own positive results.

We are all out of a 16-day isolation on New Year's Eve. There is hopefully some symbolism I want to take from that...

Stay safe my fellow Blue Mooners. I've made more friends on this board during the last ten months, than I have in ten years in my 'normal' day-to-day life.

They say you find out who your true friends are when the chips are down, I've since discovered all these people I've worked alongside down the years are only there if you can remain useful to them.

Have a wonderful Christmas, best you can, knowing I will see many of you for the first time in hopefully a brighter 2021.

x
Stay strong pal,all the best x
 
I thought my coughing and sore throat, bad as it is/was, would be the end of it.

I can't quite explain what happened to me when I went to bed last night, it was like some bizarre out-of-body-experience.

I was asleep for about an hour when I jumped awake with a horrible metallic taste in my mouth?

I couldn't believe it, soaked head-to-toe in ice-cold sweat, like I'd been for a cold shower in my T-shirt.

I'd no temperature, didn't feel hot, whatsoever, but spent the rest of the night with the shivers.

I'm in front of my desk today, never really have sick days, but there is little snap in my legs.

I consider myself pretty fit, but it just goes to show how it can grab a hold quickly even after four days in.

I'm even more fully appreciative now how easy it is to kill older people or those who have underlying health conditions.

My wife is still tired but my 13-year-old boy is pretty much back on form after nine days in for their own positive results.

We are all out of a 16-day isolation on New Year's Eve. There is hopefully some symbolism I want to take from that...

Stay safe my fellow Blue Mooners. I've made more friends on this board during the last ten months, than I have in ten years in my 'normal' day-to-day life.

They say you find out who your true friends are when the chips are down, I've since discovered all these people I've worked alongside down the years are only there if you can remain useful to them.

Have a wonderful Christmas, best you can, knowing I will see many of you for the first time in hopefully a brighter 2021.

x

I get the metallic taste every time I get a sinus infection or bronchitis. its very odd.
 
There is one difference between young idiots and older idiots. Young idiots think they are immortal. Older ones at least know they are not. It seems to make a difference to their understanding of the value of all life. Not just their own.
That’s true in the main but there are people in my age group - 50 - who are also spouting similar shite about this virus being a hoax/no worse than a cold, etc
 
We always have both sets of parents around for Xmas dinner but we have decided not this year. Both sets are in their 80s and have had the first vaccine and the next one in January. We are providing meals on wheels for one set as they live around the corner on Xmas day.

It is much better to be safe than sorry that is for sure. We can recreate the Xmas rituals in hopefully a few months, people have been disciplined for so long (at least some have) no point in throwing it all away now
 
Wales data - scary again.

51 deaths (well up on past 2 weeks)

3013 cases - over 3000 cases from Wales is not good. This was from 19.1 K tests.
 
R number updated early due to Christmas.


England 1.1 to 1,4

NW and Yorkshire still lowest but both up to 0.9 to 1.1 With NW slightly bigger rise.

London up to possibly 1.5.as is the East.

South West (currently best region) has a higher R than NW and Yorkshire now but fewer cases as yet.
 
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