Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Ban-jani]

Haha Thanks.

Maybe Lockdown announced tonight... voted on, on Wednesday... maybe for Thursday/Friday

Me thinks this is it.

Lockdown from Wednesday midnight.

Can’t come soon enough imo

 

[Rammy Blue]

What would the difference be between Tier 4 and full lockdown?

Schools and the remaining bits and bobs closed down like golf courses etc.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Guessing SNP have the majority in Scotland so Nicola will consult with them and they all agree they will vote it through, so she then accounces it.

The national Parliaments may also have passed something saying they can do that by announcement.

In England, it still should be announced in Parliament first, and that needs Parliament to sit.

 

[vincent]

Parliament wasn't supposed to be sitting until next week.

Johnson promised a vote on any national lockdown.

So I think that tells you broadly what's coming tonight.

It was only 24 hrs ago he was in the Marr show saying schools are safe.

 

[CTID Chris]

What would the difference be between Tier 4 and full lockdown?

Schools, HOPEFULLY limits on people in supermarkets and queuing again. More stuff shut. A slightly stronger worded ‘work from home’ message, yet still non-commital.

 

[blueparrot]

Guessing SNP have the majority in Scotland so Nicola will consult with them and they all agree they will vote it through, so she then accounces it.

SNP don’t have a majority, but it isn’t voted on, not sure of the reason though.

 

[Gabriel]

Given that the majority of MPs cannot actually meet in the Westminster chamber, then, presumably, a remote vote could have been held today for the sake of expediency.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

What would the difference be between Tier 4 and full lockdown?

I’d imagine it’ll be similar to what we had in April. Schools closed, people told to work from home, only allowed to exercise once a day.

Don’t think we’ll have masses of people out for picnics this time so we might have more success this time.


Also taken from Sky News website: “A tightening of measures could deliver a further blow to the aviation industry by banning people from travelling abroad altogether - but sources in government say this is not likely to happen.”

Fed up of aviation lobbyists kneecapping the country.

 

[blueparrot]

Given that the majority of MPs cannot actually meet in the Westminster chamber, then, presumably, a remote vote could have been held today for the sake of expediency.

Could have been, probably against Rees Moggs rules.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Probably nothing till Thursday then.

Announcement tonight, vote Weds, implement Thurs I guess.

Though they may implement some things immediately.

Schools are going to close regardless, it's just not possible to keep them open. Same as March overtaken by events and following rather than leading.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I think she has communicated better, our test and trace works well, The whole political discourse around it is a damn sight more civilised than Westminster. Wether it has saved lives or not I don’t know. From the headline stats, our numbers per 100,000 are lower than England’s overall but I wouldn’t jump to any conclusion on that.

I think 2nd wave Scotland have done quite a lot better.

 

[Rammy Blue]

It was only 24 hrs ago he was in the Marr show saying schools are safe.

It was only this morning that Hancock was wheeled out on all morning shows proclaiming same, pathetic.

 

[squirtyflower]

Totally agree, it was madess not to lockdown and just latest of the govt decisions from not stopping Cheltenham races to now - just utterly bewildering really and it follows that people just not taking it seriously. I live near Rivington and literally 1000s of people gathering and mingling over last week here, some coming from 100 miles away......I have lived here 10 years and never seen in busier!! What will it take to make people take responsibility? 100,000 deaths? 200,000?

This is where I differ though.
Regardless of what the government did or didn’t say there is no way you would catch me in a pub, restaurant, gym, shop, cinema or hotel. People need to take personal responsibility and follow sensible guidance.
I got slated on here for saying our family were meeting on Christmas Day. My wife is a devout Catholic and it is meaningful occasion for her and our children. However none of the family went out in the week leading up to Christmas apart from my daughter for the food we would all need. And as she has been in school every day since September I think she it hardly seemed outlandish.

Since Christmas we haven’t been out until today when I had to drive my Mrs to the physio following an operation last month. I don’t care what Tier I’m in, as I’m staying put and looking after myself.

 

[BlueAnorak]

England will be there soon.
But we'll probably have to wait a few days so that it doesn't look as if indecisive BoJo has been bumped into it by Nicola and Keith.

Tonight it would appear.
Boris is speaking to the nation tonight at 8pm.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Will this include the 1m/2m rule again in the workplace,or will a 2 person bubble be acceptable?

 

[cleavers]

Announcement tonight, vote Weds, implement Thurs I guess.

Though they may implement some things immediately.

Schools are going to close regardless, it's just not possible to keep them open. Same as March overtaken by events and following rather than leading.

All too slow, parliament could be recalled tomorrow, why wait ? Most of them will be online anyway.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Can somebody answer what is probably a very simple question.

Why do Scotland, Wales etc just announce that something is happening without having to vote on it, whilst we have to put it through Commons to vote on?

Or am I missing something obvious here.

Johnson doesn't have the support of his own MPs so promised a vote last time around.

Many are of the Hartley-Brewer school of reality.

 

[BlueAnorak]

when you are used to trump lite i would take anyone of the street

She's only jumped the gun from yesterday's COBRA meeting

 

[Blu3m00n91]

It’s not even been a week in the new tier systems and they’re changing it again. Put us into full lockdown on the basis that they sort out the vaccine situation. Stop making excuses on lack of staff, you could train volunteers to stick a needle in someone’s arm. Just get it done

 

[ayrshire_blue]

My fear in Scotland, and its maybe an area where I would criticise Sturgeon's approach, is that the rules are still too open to exploitation. Leaving it up to businesses and employers to decide and asking for their help rather than telling them to shut isn't great. I'd have went one step further than she's gone and announced that if your shop or business was shut in March then it's shut now. Construction etc the same, everything absolutely non essential shut. Trade shops only open for people with trade cards who are called to genuine emergencies - plumbers and electricians mainly.

I still forsee too many businesses staying open to prioritise a quick buck.