United (A) - League Cup SF | Post-Match Thread

BlueMoonz1977 said:
New tactical approach from Pep I reckon. Made the defence solid so we know we can step off it a little and strike again when needed

Helps draw the opposition out instead of us doing what we were doing and camping in their own half against a brick wall
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Exactly. We have a balance to the team now to suit both our needs defensively and attacking wise. Were set up now were we can't get counter attacked and opposition haven't a clue what way to approach us again.
Paperboy only knows one way to play against City and that's counter attack when we usss to throw everything at it and get caught out. He'll never be at a standard to out think anybody with his hoof and run tactics.
 
shevtheblue said:
There was a foul early on in the first half by Fern on Bruno, it was just a normal shithouse Fern tackle to break up the play but it rattled Bruno. Not the tackle in itself, because as much as he is a diving ****, he also wants to win and probably legitimately gets fouled a bit as well. But it was the moment that Bruno started complaining to the ref and Fern just stood there staring at him, basically saying this shit is gonna happen to you all night mate. That's what we miss with Rodri, he doesn't have that snap and bite that's needed in these types of games.

Another key moment for me was Dias constantly talking, constantly giving and receiving encouragement when doing a block or good tackle. This is exactly what we have been missing, all the way back from when Vinny started getting his injuries. It's easy to play something like that down, but if you have played team sports, you know how important it is and it can somehow just take you up levels in performance. In fact, Pep mentioned it in the post match interviews. It's HUGE.

I was disappointed again with Mahrez, fair's fair and this isn't his position, but Pep asks a lot of his players and it's up to you to deliver. He asked it of Torres this season, the kid has delivered. He asked it of Kevin against Chelsea, he delivered. Sterling struggled in that position and he had some time on the bench, but you know you get workrate from Sterling. If you aren't going to perform, you need to work, work, work, and Mahrez just doesn't get it.
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I'm not a big fan of Mahrez, but I thought he did alright. As you say, it wasn't his natural position, plus it was an unorthodox role. Pep always wants his strikers to come deep and aid with build up, even Aguero struggled for the earlier parts Pep took over. It's also not easy when the Rags set up 2 defensive midfielders in front of him.

He didn't do great, but I thought he looked like he's trying, and did more than he does usually.
 
shevtheblue said:
There was a foul early on in the first half by Fern on Bruno, it was just a normal shithouse Fern tackle to break up the play but it rattled Bruno. Not the tackle in itself, because as much as he is a diving ****, he also wants to win and probably legitimately gets fouled a bit as well. But it was the moment that Bruno started complaining to the ref and Fern just stood there staring at him, basically saying this shit is gonna happen to you all night mate. That's what we miss with Rodri, he doesn't have that snap and bite that's needed in these types of games.

Another key moment for me was Dias constantly talking, constantly giving and receiving encouragement when doing a block or good tackle. This is exactly what we have been missing, all the way back from when Vinny started getting his injuries. It's easy to play something like that down, but if you have played team sports, you know how important it is and it can somehow just take you up levels in performance. In fact, Pep mentioned it in the post match interviews. It's HUGE.

I was disappointed again with Mahrez, fair's fair and this isn't his position, but Pep asks a lot of his players and it's up to you to deliver. He asked it of Torres this season, the kid has delivered. He asked it of Kevin against Chelsea, he delivered. Sterling struggled in that position and he had some time on the bench, but you know you get workrate from Sterling. If you aren't going to perform, you need to work, work, work, and Mahrez just doesn't get it.
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I totally agree with those first two points. I’m not a big Mahrez fan but thought he worked hard as the false 9 and caused one or two problems.
 
Just fitting that on the day we lose one of our true greats we get to hand their arses back to the Rags on their own turf.
Deja vu it feels like the early 70s today.
So fecking happy
 
fivercider said:
Our lads wanted it a lot more and were much hungrier than they were.

Apart from Luke Shaw, who definitely couldn't wait for his butties after the game!
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Don’t agree with this. They REALLY wanted to win this but their heads dropped when they realised Silly Ole had been lying to them when he told them they were a great team - after a few lucky PL results.

It dawned on them that we were superior & whatever they did we stopped them dead
 
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fulabeer said:
You are joking aren't you? It was actually mentioned how we looked brighter because of the EXTRA rest we had before the match (by not playing everton)
No mention that we played three days earlier.
I didn't even hear one reference during the game how many we had out or returning after Covid/Injury.

Oh and did anybody notice how the ref was constantly taking positions that blocked our play down the left flank?
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Referees patrol a diagonal path. It is bound to conflict with our left sided attacking play at times, and also our right sided defending areas (opponent's left side attacks). Don't be misled into thinking this is deliberate sabotage by referees.
 
Paladin said:
Referees patrol a diagonal path. It is bound to conflict with our left sided attacking play at times, and also our right sided defending areas (opponent's left side attacks). Don't be misled into thinking this is deliberate sabotage by referees.
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My point was that he was often too far forward with our play. Good refs follow the play. He was preempting the play and taking up his position too early. It might just be his style, but annoying either way.
 
Paladin said:
Referees patrol a diagonal path. It is bound to conflict with our left sided attacking play at times, and also our right sided defending areas (opponent's left side attacks). Don't be misled into thinking this is deliberate sabotage by referees.
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There are a lot of professional defensive midfielders earning 100 grand a week who can't plot a run to effectively block our play, I think anyone who thinks the referees can do it deliberately are giving them far to much credit.
 
CC1 said:
Don’t agree with this. They REALLY wanted to win this but their heads dropped when they realise Silly Ole had been lying to them when he told them they were a great team - after a few lucky PL results.

It dawned on them that we were superior & whatever they did we stopped them dead
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Ha ha. Brought them down a peg or two last night. The great pretenders who are something above thier station now realise the truth. Stand aside you shower of shit, this is how to do it.....
 
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