Donald Trump

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You sound like Chamberlin in 1939

Don’t remember Chamberlain publicly talking about Hitler in terms of “when the **** is gone”. Would have been fun to watch!

 

[Ban-jani]

Biden has every right to tell us politely to fuck off, hopefully he will recognise that not all of the U.K. is responsible for Johnson and his crew being snivelling shits.

Sometimes silence is taking a side.

Totally disagree, we haven’t even been silent. BBC:

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has condemned the "disgraceful scenes" in the US, after supporters of President Donald Trump stormed Congress and clashed with police.

 

[west didsblue]

In a very measured way.

Some people want him to call Trump an Orange **** live on air.

Patel isn’t Foreign Secretary, it’s not even her job.

I can’t stand the Tories but it’s unsurprising some are using the crisis in the US to attack them, without justification imo.

For someone who can't stand the Tories you're going to great lengths to defend them on here today.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Yeah, I forced Johnson to talk shite just so I could post it on here...

tbf, he definitely sorted North Korea out.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

No, he declared war on his own country...

Tough day for Trump supporters. I feel zero sympathy.

Massively devisive for the US. He has no doubt done significant damage to harmony within the US and its reputation abroad.

We knew Trumps ego knew no bounds but imo he should be charged for attempted sedition after the appalling events of yesterday.

However to compare him to Hitler is truly hillarious which was the point I was making Bob was it not. Or do you also think they are comparable?

Dave needs to read up on WW2 and the Hollocaust to understand the devastating impact that these events had on tens of millions of people, before he makes such flipant silly comparisons.

 

[Ban-jani]

Don’t remember Chamberlain publicly talking about Hitler in terms of “when the **** is gone”. Would have been fun to watch!

I also said the world will be a better place when the fascist **** has gone.

Maybe @Hart of the Matter has some information of Chamberlain’s forum posts around the time.

 

[west didsblue]

Totally disagree, we haven’t even been silent. BBC:

He didn't condemn Trump.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Fuck off mate, with respect.

This clown just tried to organise a fucking coup.

What do you think he'd do in a major conflict with Russia or China? He'd have his hand on that nuke in no time. He's a maniac.

There is no doubt in my mind that he is clinically insane.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

Yeah, I remember Merkel telling the world Trump should get a Nobel with some caveats. Oh, wait, she didn’t, maybe because she has some sense of dignity.

I was just pointing out that the tweet from the (Corbynite) Labour MP was wrong and you were spreading (albeit unwittingly) that mis-information. Politicians say all sorts of things that can seem out of context, but they wear many hats. This MP has chosen to post something like this now - I'm assuming it is now - not because it is relevant to the situation, but because he cannot articulate his own arguments to the people nor restrain his own prejudices. It is just opportunism.

This is how we are where we are, two wrongs don't make a right. I don't like Trump and I don't like Johnson, but if we are to get to a better place people need to start addressing the issues more diplomatically.

 

[Ban-jani]

For someone who can't stand the Tories you're going to great lengths to defend them on her today.

It’s called objectivity mate.

I criticise them when they often deserve it and defend them from the delusionals on here when they don’t.

Johnson condemning what’s happened but not wading in further is the exact approach they should take.

 

[west didsblue]

There is no doubt in my mind that he is clinically insane.

I tend not to agree with @Churchlawtonblue on many things but I wouldn't call him that.

 

[Ban-jani]

He didn't condemn Trump.

He’s made a general comment condemning what’s happening.

That is exactly what he should have done.

you may want him to come on publicly on Biden’s side but he should keep out of it.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

There is no doubt in my mind that he is clinically insane.

I suspect he's a psychopath.

 

[Scottyboi]

America is so divided at the moment.

Both sides should be ashamed.
Both fanning the flames.
Both have blood on their hands.

Dem or Rep what does it matter nothing will change.

American politicians created Trump with the previous failed administrations. The media are driving the agenda.

Some shite you have posted there.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Fuck off mate, with respect.

This clown just tried to organise a fucking coup.

What do you think he'd do in a major conflict with Russia or China? He'd have his hand on that nuke in no time. He's a maniac.

Oh dear Dave, not taken being called out for your silly comparisson very well have you? There's always the edit button to save you further embarrasment Dave.

 

[Ban-jani]

Showing your true colours again, unbelievable.

Still waiting for you to back up this snide comment

 

[Scottyboi]

Trump watched A Handmaid's tale and was inspired.

 

[hilts]

Totally disagree, we haven’t even been silent. BBC:

Don’t play that game, they have been silent on Trumps behaviour.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Massively devisive for the US. He has no doubt done significant damage to harmony within the US and its reputation abroad.

We knew Trumps ego knew no bounds but imo he should be charged for attempted sedition after the appalling events of yesterday.

However to compare him to Hitler is truly hillarious which was the point I was making Bob was it not. Or do you also think they are comparable?

Dave needs to read up on WW2 and the Hollocaust to understand the devastating impact that these events had on tens of millions of people, before he makes such flipant silly comparisons.

Fuck off even further. But this time with no respect whatseover.

I said this man "was" as big a danger as Hitler, not "is". The point being that if he'd remained in power and a major conflict escalated then he could have been responsible for even more deaths because he has nukes.

And don't you dare fucking patronise me to "read up" on the war. Work on your own basic comprehension, spelling and grammar skills first or people like me might think you're just more illiterate gammon.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Massively devisive for the US. He has no doubt done significant damage to harmony within the US and its reputation abroad.

We knew Trumps ego knew no bounds but imo he should be charged for attempted sedition after the appalling events of yesterday.

However to compare him to Hitler is truly hillarious which was the point I was making Bob was it not. Or do you also think they are comparable?

Dave needs to read up on WW2 and the Hollocaust to understand the devastating impact that these events had on tens of millions of people, before he makes such flipant silly comparisons.

I think the key difference between Trump and Hitler (other than Hitler’s significantly better dress sense) is simply one of opportunity. If the American Constitution, however flawed, wasn’t significantly more robust in protecting democracy and the rule of law than Germany in the early 1930’s then there’s absolutely no doubt in my mind that Trump would have followed a similar path to Hitler. Not in terms of mass genocide against Jews, of course, but he would have found another target for his hatred and bile - and he would have suppressed dissent to a similar extent. Don’t forget that Hitler’s views around the cancer of Jewish influence was as rooted in reality as Trump’s stated views on the election result. Both lacked any form of objective analysis, or real evidence, and were, instead, founded in severe paranoia and hatred. Both were/are completely deluded and clinically insane. Both were/are utterly malign.

So for me, the only material difference is opportunity.