Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BLUEMATT23]

I was going to agree with you there, then I read the last sentence.

Give your head a wobble.

I am joking of course but we are not far off being a police state the way things are going.
Is this part of the deal?

 

[grunge]

You don’t know if they were obeying the rules or not. You have accepted their story hook, line and sinker.

My own view is that it does seem the police were heavy handed but appearing on national TV days after the incident and repeating their steps on a number of occasions to appear in the national press gives the impression of glory seeking.

I was taking the police statement more than theres. "Derbyshire Police initially said driving to exercise was "not in the spirit" of lockdown." Not in the spirit of?

While I dont think going to the press was a good move, dont forget through Derby police have constantly been slapped down for incorrectly enforcing the rules. they are the ones that got done by the Gov for using a drone in the 1st lockdown.

 

[shemnel]

Is that not actually a tad concerning though? Given the big massive spike in the Spring months, which I think we can sadly safely say probably ended many people's lives months, if not years, earlier than expected - shouldn't we now be below averages?

yes you could certainly interpret it that way. Covid, and other associated mortality that is being placed on the population due to an overstressed NHS not being able to deliver its functionality properly, is keeping that line 'buoyant'.

January is usually a hump month for mortality, but i expect that black line to consistently hover over that baseline at roughly 2SD for the entire of Jan. The sad and rather callous fact is, that a certain percentage who would die this winter/Jan of flu, will have already succumbed to covid (hence why flu occurrence and death is floored right now). No way of putting that without sounding a bit heartless.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I am joking of course but we are not far off being a police state the way things are going.
Is this part of the deal?

Derbys plod were stupid last time around, and are continuing to abuse their powers again this time. They need less officers, new leadership, or both.

I don't see any big issue on policing overall, though.

 

[Chappie]

I am joking of course but we are not far off being a police state the way things are going.
Is this part of the deal?

Give you're head another wobble, we are nowhere near a police state.
If we were you would be one of the first arrested with some of the comments you've come out with over the last few weeks
You come across as some needy soft arsed tosser,grow up and grow some balls.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Had to have an electrician round this morning to fix a fault and I asked him if he was going to wear a mask. His response was no as it's a bit difficult to wear a mask and work for a couple of hours. Thank the lord the medics are made of hardier stuff. If I didn't need the work doing I would have told him to turn around and fuck off home, unbelievable attitude.

 

[twosips]

I am joking of course but we are not far off being a police state the way things are going.
Is this part of the deal?

One thing im almost certain of is that police don't want to be arresting people for walking. I can guarantee you that when we eventually get on top of all this, which we will, even if its painful for a bit, the police will be back to being useless in their previously unnoticeable way ha :)

 

[BlueHammer85]

know someone who had the call to have a jab completely out the blue (he's in his 60's), because someone didn't turn up for there appointment and the vaccine had to be used asap as it had come out the refrigerator - he's had it done

 

[Healdplace]

I've had a discussion with my mum today, she's 79, and heard nothing, but everyone over 75 she knows has had at least 1 jab, they are being informed by letter, and all over the christmas mass post period, I've told my mum she needs to discuss with her doctor tomorrow, because she may have been sent a letter and just not received it, so tell your friend to phone immediately, as she just may not have got her/his letter.

Don't take no for an answer, lots haven't turned up for appointments, that may be because they never received their appointment.

I have had daily hour long chats with her and almost have never failed to press her over this in the past 4 weeks since the vaccinations started. But she does her own thing.

I have mentioned in here before how way back at the start during the initial lockdown she twice had to struggle to a shop and collapsed twice on the street and needed to be helped home after getting food. I offered to get her home delivery but she declined as she felt if she was 'one of the vulnerable; she would have had the letter telling her she was on that list and getting food deliveries. After weeks of this and I was booking for her deliveries that took weeks as supermarkets were swamped then until they took on extra delivery staff.

Six weeks after it started she got the letter telling her she was on the list - no apology for why it took so long. By then she was using the on line supermarkets deliveries I had set up for her and happy to get her own food and 'let someone else have the free things'. Week after week despite about SIX attempts to get this to stop that very belated delivery of the boxes they kept bringing it. She could not get to the doorstep and bring it in anyway given her health and so people passing by on the street were taking it bit by bit. I tried to get a local homeless shelter to pick it up each week when it was obvious they were just going to keep putting it there despite being asked over and over not to do so.

This was back in the early days of the pandemic and my first direct recognition that our ability to administer the pandemic was not going well. It was far from the last.

I reminded her of this several times over recent days and it was more than likely she had just been missed 'by accident' again. And she finally promised me she would talk to her GP today as she was scheduled for a regular phone chat on her health with that doctor. That's when she told me Hancock had rung her personally to promise the vaccine in a week or two before Christmas. She is fully compos mentis but I do obviously think it highly unlikely it was him. But like many people born before WW 2 she is very trusting of authority since as a child she understood why doing what she was asked meant survival or not by day to day experience.

I was very willing to give this government every chance to get things right as I know this is something nobody was prepared to handle. But this kind of bureaucratic mess is inexcusable. She worked as a medical receptionist booking these things herself at a major Manchester hospital so knows why getting it right matters. But like many of her generation she tends to be TOO trusting of authority. Why they are such easy prey to scam merchants if they claim to be this.

 

[Healdplace]

Tested positive this morning. I'm usually fit and healthy, let's see how this thing goes.

Started feeling a bit cold and shivery, developed a cough. Take the odd coughing fit once every hour or so where it's a bit of a struggle for breath, otherwise ok for now. Also I'd say sore muscles as well, back uncomfortable and jaw was aching whilst eating a packet of crisps......strange one.

Sorry to hear that. My brother has had much the same and most of his family have got it too now. But his wife is not even allowed to take a test as you only het one if you have symptoms she was told. Despite her job interacting with elderly people in sheltered housing. Crazy things like this keep happening. She is self isolating anyway.

Happily they have all over past two weeks had relatively mild illness and all are getting over it now.

I imagine my brother is a bit older than you too.

So all being well you will see this off. Keep strong.

 

[cleavers]

know someone who had the call to have a jab completely out the blue (he's in his 60's), because someone didn't turn up for there appointment and the vaccine had to be used asap as it had come out the refrigerator - he's had it done

I've heard a few of these stories now, it's far better than waste it, but I wonder when they'll get their second dose ?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Tested positive this morning. I'm usually fit and healthy, let's see how this thing goes.

Started feeling a bit cold and shivery, developed a cough. Take the odd coughing fit once every hour or so where it's a bit of a struggle for breath, otherwise ok for now. Also I'd say sore muscles as well, back uncomfortable and jaw was aching whilst eating a packet of crisps......strange one.

Best wishes, get well soon

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland data - Worrying given it is Monday when things can be low.

1 Death (though that Monday caveat stressed by Nicola Sturgeon)

1782 cases at 11.5% positive

1664 in hospital - up a huge 126 in past 24 hours - biggest daily rise in Scotland ever I think.

Now a lot more in hospital than in peak in April Nicola pointed out.

And 126 on ventilator beds, Double what it was at Christmas.

 

[Healdplace]

Nicola Sturgeon also confirmed as of today 163, 377 in Scotland have been vaccinated.

And will publish data DAILY from now on.

1100 sites around Scotland are from today administering the vaccine.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland cases today include 595 from Greater Glasgow, 307 Lanarkshire. 194 Lothian and 144 Ayrshire and Arran,

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Sorry to hear that. My brother has had much the same and most of his family have got it too now. But his wife is not even allowed to take a test as you only het one if you have symptoms she was told. Despite her job interacting with elderly people in sheltered housing. Crazy things like this keep happening. She is self isolating anyway.

Happily they have all over past two weeks had relatively mild illness and all are getting over it now.

I imagine my brother is a bit older than you too.

So all being well you will see this off. Keep strong.

Glad to hear that they're all on the mend HP, hopefully they continue to make a full recovery. Thank you.

Best wishes, get well soon

Cheers mate.

 

[Healdplace]

Nicola says she is 'disappointed and frustrated' over the Celtic incident and 'it is vital that the privileges are not abused' as afforded to Celtic.

She has doubts they followed the 'bubble' procedures. She has doubts the trip was essential she adds.

'This whole episode shows the seriousness of the situation we are in and all (including football) should be 'erring on the side of caution';

She agrees that the whole of football should not pay the price for this mistake but they WILL be reviewing the rules for football in Scotland. And she hopes Celtic will reflect and review their actions too.

She personally does not think a trip to Dubai can be classed as 'essential'

 

[cleavers]

I have had daily hour long chats with her and almost have never fail to press her over this in the past 4 weeks since the vaccinations started. But she does her own thing.

I have mentioned in here before how way back at the start during the initial lockdown she twice had to struggle to a shop and collapsed twice on the street and needed to be helped home after getting food. I offered to get her home delivery but she declined as she felt if she was 'one of the vulnerable; she would have had the letter telling her she was on that list and getting food deliveries. After weeks of this and I was booking for her deliveries that took weeks as supermarkets were swamped then until they took on extra delivery staff.

Six weeks after it started she got the letter telling her she was on the list - no apology for why it took so long. By then she was using the on line supermarkets deliveries I had set up for her and happy to get her own food and 'let someone else have the free things'. Week after week despite about SIX attempts to get this to stop that very belated delivery of the boxes they kept bringing it. She could not get to the doorstep and bring it in anyway given her health and so people passing by on the street were taking it bit by bit. I tried to get a local homeless shelter to pick it up each week when it was obvious they were just going to keep putting it there despite being asked over and over not to do so.

This was back in the early days of the pandemic and my first direct recognition that our ability to administer the pandemic was not going well. It was far from the last.

I reminded her of this several times over recent days and it was more than likely she had just been missed 'by accident' again. And she finally promised me she would talk to her GP today as she was scheduled for a regular phone chat on her health with that doctor. That's when she told me Hancock had rung her personally to promise the vaccine in a week or two before Christmas. She is fully compos mentis but I do obviously think it highly unlikely it was him. But like many people born before WW 2 she is very trusting of authority since as a child she understood why doing what she was asked meant survival or not by day to day experience.

I was very willing to give this government every chance to get things right as I know this is something nobody was prepared to handle. But this kind of bureaucratic mess is inexcusable. She worked as a medical receptionist booking these things herself at a major Manchester hospital so knows why getting it right matters. But like many of her generation she tends to be trusting of authority. Why they are such easy prey to scam merchants if they claim to be this.

My mum phoned her doctor this morning, and was given an appointment for Thursday, so get her to phone, she'll surely get one as she's 10 years older than my mum.

 

[Mike Cledford]

I was going to agree with you there, then I read the last sentence.

Give your head a wobble.

Same here. I was poised to press the like button. I read the last sentence and moved my finger as quickly as if was in the fire

 

[M18CTID]

I am joking of course but we are not far off being a police state the way things are going.
Is this part of the deal?

The deal is that these are extraordinary times which call for certain rules and while they may look draconian on the face of it, are absolutely necessary in a situation like this. That's the same for this country and every other country in the world that is trying to fight this pandemic. If anything, we're proving to be less of a police state than pretty much any other country with the exception of North Korea. Go to the Isle Of Man and you don't just get fined for breaking quarantine rules - they throw you in prison. Anti-lockdown protestors in Germany aren't getting the softly softly approach from the police like they are over here - they're getting water-cannoned into the next fucking postcode. You can't leave your house in Greece unless you have a valid reason and even then you have to text a government number first. Brisbane and the surrounding area has just gone into full lockdown with nobody allowed in or out because of ONE positive case.