Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Invisible Man's Bandage said:
That's interesting and it wasn't spelt out in the article I read even though it had quotes from the Oxford team.

I think that in the interests of speeding up vaccinations even more then the 15 minute rule is overkill as around 4 million doses have been administered in the UK already with seemingly no issues.
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I don't know enough to say anything definitive, but my instincts are also that it's overkill.

However, given
(1) rollout is limited by supply atm and
(2) anything done to reassure vaccine hesitant people is good

It might well be the right thing to do.
 
Rammy Blue said:
We placed too much emphasis on trying to keep the elements of the economy linked to overseas going, whereas in reality if we’d done as you said above we’d have been able to open up our internal economy much quicker which would have had far less an impact. Hindsight.
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Yep, and hotels and the rest of the hospitality sector within the U.K. would have been booming with millions taking holidays at home.
 
England hospital deaths are up but not exceptionally. Though a little more than I had hoped.

And NW as usual very low. Weekend data often not well reported in this region. But even lower this week.

631 up from 508 last week.

42 today from the NW
 
roubaixtuesday said:
I don't know enough to say anything definitive, but my instincts are also that it's overkill.

However, given
(1) rollout is limited by supply atm and
(2) anything done to reassure vaccine hesitant people is good

It might well be the right thing to do.
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Your second point is valid but even if supply is limited currently it is still more beneficial to administer doses as quickly as possible even if we had to pause for a short period if we ran out.
 
Scotland data:

0 deaths. Was 3 last week. Rarely any at weekends registered.

1341 cases. Was 1877 last week

At 9,5% positive. A little higher.

Patients up 55 in day to 1918. Easily the most ever in Scottish hospitals with Covid

Icu ventilators up 2 to 147.

The cases as with Wales coming down a bit but are yet to feed into hospital numbers or death, which will always come afterwards, of course.

To see how drastically the post Christmas rise has been:

On Christmas Eve there were 1008 in hospital - now 24 days later there are 1918. Almost double.

And there were 55 on ventilator beds - now 147 - almost triple in 24 days.

Suggesting more going in are ending up in icu. A bit concerning as it mirrors what has occurred in London.
 
Northern Ireland data:

25 deaths. Was 17 last Sunday.

822 cases. Was 1112 last Sunday.

At 27.2% positivity. Which is about what it has been here. Always fewer tests so higher percentage. It was 31,2% with those 1112 cases for comparison,
 
So from the three nations without England that is a total of 3335 cases v 4649 last week. Earlier weeks not meaningful due to holiday reporting. But that is a hopeful drop.

And deaths other than out of hospital for England total 704 v 573 last week. With low weekend registering of out of hospital we will likely stay below 1000 today but that will not be meaningful if we do as likely would be close to it otherwise.
 
More on 631 England hospital deaths today.

Of those 42 from the NW there were 12 from Manchester and 8 from Stockport hospital boards - both highest daily numbers I have seen there in a while.

That matches up with the way these are the two worst performing boroughs for infections in GM over past week or so.
 
England 631 hospital deaths: 3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v Today: Total / NW total / NW % of England total

231 / 29 NW / 13%

386 / 45 NW / 12%

508 / 39 NW / 8%

631 / 42 NW / 7% Today.

Hard to judge from weekends with usual low NW reporting - but that steady fall is still a trend down.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Could be but I’ve never had it before don’t know why it would suddenly start
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I started with inner ear problems out of the blue about 20 years ago, I was referred to a consultant who didn't prescribe meds but a series of manipulative neck exercises to re-balance the crystals in the inner ear. They worked surprisingly well and while I still occasionally get the odd flare-up the neck exercises keep it in check.
 
Just read on Sky News that a person is currently being admitted to hospital with COVID19 every 30 seconds here in the UK.

Then read another article entitled ‘Some restrictions will be gone by spring’.

Can’t see it myself.
 
England 631 hospital deaths. More details.

By region: 154 London. 121 East, 111 Midlands, 103 South East, 66 NE & Yorkshire, 42 North West. 34 South West.

By age range:

20 - 39 (3) 0.5%

40 - 59 (45) 7.1%

60 - 79 (232) 36.8%

80 + (351) 55.6%
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Sorry to hear you going through it mate.

Strong Codeine Linctus will help with the coughing fits. It's horrible stuff and will make you feel a little spaced out, but it does have an impact.

Wish I could tell you when coughing stops, but now almost a month for me, everyone is different.

Just don't do any strenuous exercise (whatsoever) even if you start to feel up to it - it will remind you very quickly that your lungs needs a sustained holiday.

I did find some short temporary relief sleeping on my front to try and help my lungs, but anybody with serious coughing will tell you that it becomes too uncomfortable after ten minutes or so.

Get a soluble Vit C and Zinc multivitamin tablet in you each morning, dose between paracetamol and ibuprofen, keep speaking to your GP if you bring up any blood in coughing, which I did, even if just to put your mind at rest.

And keep resting, loads of it. I intend to take the entire month off. I'd not had a day off work or a holiday for a couple of years and my immune system was clearly wanting to tap me on the shoulder and let me know I was running on empty.

Best wishes.
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Blimey mate.
That’s some trawl but I’m not surprised. Seems like a very similar set of symptoms.
I couldn’t get out of my bed till midday when just about managed to crawl to the living room.
I could barely eat breakfast & the tea was insipid. Nodded off within ten mins woken by a relative phoning me.

Feels like lead coursing through my veins rather than oxygen. Sick feeling and try my best not to start a coughing fit. Migraine on top of everything else too.

As Kaz said, it’s a tad unusual being sick due to coughing so violently but this is what happens.

The flat is driving me mad too but the ex dropped supplies off earlier.
Saw a runner from the window and that seems a universe away.
The lethargy is unreal.

I’d only been in the job a week and already taken four days off. It’s a job I’m lucky to have and it’s taken a lot of work to get there (one of the benefits of the lockdown was the focus) so I understandably feel guilty about that. What do I do though?

Hope you start to mend up soon mate. We’re alive at least and some major positives are on the horizon.
Take care.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
The placebo used in the Oxford trial was actually a real vaccine for a different bug (I forget which one).

I vaguely recall reading, alternatively, that the reason was
(1) so people on the placebo actually got some benefit
(2) So the likely reactions were more similar than if saline was used, so participants couldn't guess which arm they were on.

Not sure what the reality was, I'd guess (2)
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if I recall it was the meningitis vaccine and it was used as has similar reactions when being taken.
 
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