Coronavirus (2021) thread

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kaz7 said:
Did he just say you can get a test without symptoms ? I am only half listening
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I’m not watching, but using this as an example when people are talking about positivity rates - so suddenly every man and dog, even loads with bugger all symptoms, run out and get a test tomorrow and we have 1 million tests, then we still get the 50,000 or so positive results, we get the 5% rate. But surely that’s still an element of bollocks as it’s just the 50k positives that matter. Hence why when discussing Irish data we say their positivity rate is high because they don’t do as much testing.

Why does the positivity rate matter that much? @Healdplace
 
Been to get a test this morning - the bloke who gave me a lift to work all last week started with symptoms on Friday after he got home and confirmed positive this morning. Was feeling a bit ropey myself this morning but not sure whether that was down to the amount of beer I drank last night. I’ll be astonished if I haven’t caught it though.

Another bloke who wasn’t in all last week because he “felt rough” tested positive over the weekend so we can probably guess where it originated from, especially as his wife works at the Tesco on Chester Road which was closed down last week due to an outbreak, yet the **** never bothered to tell us this and we found out through the media instead ffs!
 
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M18CTID said:
Been to get a test this morning - the bloke who gave me a lift to work all last week started with symptoms on Friday after he got home and confirmed positive this morning.

Another bloke who wasn’t in all last week because he “felt rough” tested positive over the weekend so we can probably guess where it originated from, especially as his wife works at the Tesco on Chester Road which was closed down last week due to an outbreak, yet the **** never bothered to tell us this last week and we found out through the media instead ffs!
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Sounds like you’re fucked.
 
The regional data shows what I think we could have predicted.

The South East and East falling,

London records its lowest numbers in a month and is closing in on the midlands and north west in raw numbers when they were miles ahead.

And every other region beyond the south has gone up day to day.

So the fall in cases today was in no way 'real' north of Watford.

Things do genuinely seem tro be dropping there and just London and the South East really created the decrease today.

Happily the NW only went up by 401 and North East up just 10.

Less than almost everywhere else - including the Midlands that was 1250 up on yesterday.

So in a sense this is good if the lockdown is causing cases to fall fast it would make sense we would see this down south first as they started the rise earlier.
 
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In my area South Manchester there is a clinic in Hale Barnes that is now vaccinating people under the age of 70, as they have completed all those over that age. In Timperley they are setting up a vaccination hub at the Larkhill Community Centre, as I am 75 in April I hope I am not too far away from the first jab. But it seems weird that one clinic is so far ahead of the curve?
 
jimharri said:


Question to any Kiwi blues out there; how have you got to that point? Is the whole country vaccinated now? It only takes one infected person in that crowd, and you're back to square one. And yes; I'm aware that NZ's geographical location, vis a vis their relative isolation, gives them an advantage in controlling the virus. But with air travel so commonplace these days, is anywhere truly "isolated" any more?
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I'm (sadly) not a Kiwi nor based in NZ, but I don't think NZ have even started the vaccination process, nor are they even in a rush to do so.

Their borders are effectively closed, and any new arrivals have to go into a quarantine hotel on arrival. This of course means they catch people who are positive during this enforced 14 day isolation period (some flights are still entering the country) I think anyone who is positive isn't released until they can produce a negative test.

I believe they currently have something like 80 active cases, all of which are in quarantine rather than in the community, which means they can hold events like this without having to take precautions. Kinda hard for us to get our collective heads around but COVID just isn't a thing over in New Zealand. Kiwi's can't travel anywhere but life is pretty much normal over there by all accounts. We're a million miles away from being able to hold an event with 20,000 people attending.

Seems like they might be tightening their border controls even further, and you can't blame them. They can see all the chaos COVID and it's variants continue to cause across the world, so it makes perfect sense to keep a lid on the situation when they have it effectively completely under control.

New Zealand Further Tightens Border Measures to Combat Virus - Bloomberg
 
kaz7 said:
Did he just say you can get a test without symptoms ? I am only half listening
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Kind of, but I understood it's only the lateral flow tests, and you have to go queue to get a test in a testing centre, so perhaps meeting up with people who are likely to have covid.

I won't be doing that, you take enough chance going out for essential reasons as it is, going to a covid testing centre if you have no symptoms, is not on my list of "essential".
 
I weighed up working from home compared to in the office, and I've decided to stay in the office (lots of different reasons). Been told today the ones of us remaining will now be tested regularly, which is good.
Hope it's not one of those tests that a friend in a care home got. Tested positive and then was told to go to a testing centre (same day) and that one was negative! Which is a good result, obviously, but travelling whilst possibly having it wasn't good :-(
 
Greater Manchester summary:

Goodish news.

Cases up just 65 to 1359.

Which as the NW as a region rose by 401 pro rata means the NW shared lower numbers than elsewhere.

At 29.1% it is the lowest in a week and clawed back the losses caused by Manchester and Stockport in past days.

Manchester fell again but stayed over 300 just.

Stockport rose but only by 9.

There were 3 boroughs under 100.

Nobody really had a bad day today. Only modest ups and downs.

Full scoreboard later as usual.
 
The positivity rate is important to smooth out the rise and fall of tests done. It is not a perfect metric because the system can be gamed so with like all these things you're looking for a trend.

I'm not 100% sure why the WHO view the 5% figure as important as that is massively dependent on testing strategy eg last spring we were only testing hospitalised cases so I presume we would have had a high positive percentage. Now anyone can essentially lie and get a test so you're testing people who don't have it which skews the figures.

But where testing strategy remains the same the way the system can be gamed remains the same and so the figure remains "accurate" to plot a trend
 
feedthegoat27 said:
I'm (sadly) not a Kiwi nor based in NZ, but I don't think NZ have even started the vaccination process, nor are they even in a rush to do so.

Their borders are effectively closed, and any new arrivals have to go into a quarantine hotel on arrival. This of course means they catch people who are positive during this enforced 14 day isolation period (some flights are still entering the country) I think anyone who is positive isn't released until they can produce a negative test.

I believe they currently have something like 80 active cases, all of which are in quarantine rather than in the community, which means they can hold events like this without having to take precautions. Kinda hard for us to get our collective heads around but COVID just isn't a thing over in New Zealand. Kiwi's can't travel anywhere but life is pretty much normal over there by all accounts. We're a million miles away from being able to hold an event with 20,000 people attending.

Seems like they might be tightening their border controls even further, and you can't blame them. They can see all the chaos COVID and it's variants continue to cause across the world, so it makes perfect sense to keep a lid on the situation when they have it effectively completely under control.

New Zealand Further Tightens Border Measures to Combat Virus - Bloomberg
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how sensible.
 
Ban-jani said:
My nan is nearly 80 and very vulnerable.

Just found out there’s a nurse(s) coming to her care home tomorrow to vaccinate her... and presumably others hopefully too.

Very happy.
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Certainly seems to be happening To a lot of people
I told my mum she’d be mid feb (70+) last week and she got it 4 days later.
Also have a friend who’s wife is a midwife and he said anyone trained to do injections is being drafted in to help
 
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