Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Healdplace said:
North West to only get 200 K vaccines instead of 300 K per week from next week. BBC News.

Local medics unhappy.

So that less well performing regions can catch up.

What happened to rewarding regions who do what the government ask - as in Merseyside and the testing?

Surely supply should be based on population numbers in groups next on the list not performance related as otherwise why bother trying to do better if you get vaccines taken away for doing so and handed to you if you don't get it right?

Also why are over 70s patients in hospital for other reasons not being vaccinated whilst there? Not even happening in Knowsley it seems where for the past month it has been the most infected borough in the UK so high risk to be hospitalised, Seems an obvious step I presumed was just happening.
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if it keeps the whole England on roughly the same trajectory then that's a good thing.
 
Late again

UK nationals and residents returning from "red list" countries will be placed in quarantine in government-provided accommodation - such as hotels - for 10 days, Boris Johnson has told MPs.

Speaking at Prime Minister's Questions, Mr Johnson said the new measures - which will be announced by Home Secretary Priti Patel later on Wednesday - are aimed at preventing mutant strains of the COVID virus from reaching the UK
 
Ban-jani said:
Don’t mind this, we need to be unified as a nation and get rid of it as soon as we can, it makes sense to focus on problem areas to save lives.

It’s not so easy for me to say as it could mean delays to my and the Mrs’s family getting it.
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The North West IS the problem area though. Only London had more cases yesterday. By just 819.

The only area still increasing percentage wise.

Whereas Yorkshire - the lowest for cases over the past weeks and with the lowest % of the new variant - has had the most vaccines of anyone.

And London - the worst impacted until a massive fall over the past two weeks - has had the least.

So this is not being done on fairness or urgency of need if that is anything to go by.
 
TINY said:
Managed to get the football last night though so every cloud
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we can all confirm it was not any of the drugs they gave you in hospital and that Sterling did actually score last night, so you weren’t hallucinating ;-)

speedy recovery to you and to your brother in law...
 
973 England hospital deaths - down from the last two Wednesdays both over 1000.

A flicker of light here despite the horrifically high numbers still. Signs of us plateauing.

!38 from the NW though Well up on the higher total numbers from the past two Wednesdays.

First hint that the NW problems are starting to translate into higher deaths.

Just as they take vaccines away. And why I was concerned. As it has been clear that the NW was a problem area at present where cases were not falling quite as much as they are elsewhere. Especially in Greater Manchester,

I hope the likes of Andy Burnham point this out and ask why they do not take the vaccine from Yorkshire where cases keep falling to near record low levels yet have been having the most supplies of any region.
 
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Healdplace said:
973 England hospital deaths - down from the last two Wednesdays both over 1000.

A flicker of light here despite the horrifically high numbers still. Signs of us plateauing.
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So tragic - we are in danger of becoming desensitized to this. A 1000 families again impacted. Horrible.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
Many thanks BP and it is more assuring. I would have preferred a study by a university or AZ or Pfizer and not a government organisation though as we are the only country in the world, to my knowledge, who are going down this road. I just hope that you and they are correct.
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Well as Prof Whitty said "By a process of not difficult maths..."
An extra average 20k deaths is avoided.
 
Healdplace said:
The North West IS the problem area though. Only London had more cases yesterday. By just 819.

The only area still increasing percentage wise.

Whereas Yorkshire - the lowest for cases over the past weeks and with the lowest % of the new variant - has had the most vaccines of anyone.

And London - the worst impacted until a massive fall over the past two weeks - has had the least.

So this is not being done on fairness or urgency of need if that is anything to go by.
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that's a reasonable point
 
Healdplace said:
The North West IS the problem area though. Only London had more cases yesterday. By just 819.

The only area still increasing percentage wise.

Whereas Yorkshire - the lowest for cases over the past weeks and with the lowest % of the new variant - has had the most vaccines of anyone.

And London - the worst impacted until a massive fall over the past two weeks - has had the least.

So this is not being done on fairness or urgency of need if that is anything to go by.
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Well if they do need to justify why and where the problem areas are whilst doing it.

They need to get it right basically so I agree with you if that is the case.
 
Healdplace said:
973 England hospital deaths - down from the last two Wednesdays both over 1000.

A flicker of light here despite the horrifically high numbers still. Signs of us plateauing.

!38 from the NW though Well up on the higher total numbers from the past two Wednesdays.

First hint that the NW problems are starting to translate into higher deaths.

Just as they take vaccines away. And why I was concerned. As it has been clear that the NW was a problem area at present where cases were not falling quite as much as they are elsewhere. Especially in Greater Manchester,

I hope the likes of Andy Burnham point this out and ask why they do not take the vaccine from Yorkshire where cases keep falling to near record low levels yet have been having the most supplies of any region.
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I don’t disagree with your logic, but I don’t think they’ve ever vaccinated based on cases. Otherwise London and kent would have had a larger share in the first few weeks. And they had less, as their demographic suggested they had less 80+ year olds than other places.
 
Local news stating police cordon extended around factory in Wrexham due to suspect package.
 
Yesterday -

London 3816 cases - down wk to wk from 6237

Hospitalisation patients last 24 hours down 229 and over week down 926.

Ventilated last 24 hours down 42 and over week down 49



North West 2997 (GM 1100 of those) cases - down wk to wk from 4091 (GM 1169 of those)

Hospitalisation patients last 24 hours up 224 - up 39 over week.

Ventilated last 24 hours up 9 and over week - up 7 over the week.


Pretty clear there who from these measures is in need of vaccinations continuing asap as opposed to doing so well they can afford to slow right down to help London.

Hospitals being overwhelmed is an issue too in vaccination strategy.

I have no problem with redistribution and to vaccinate all at risk asap - but not if that means taking it from areas where the need looks apparent in the data to do all we can to get this under control.

Doctors are arguing against it in the North West. You would think they understand this - certainly more than I do. But if they are not happy I can see why.
 
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