Coronavirus (2021) thread

[LongsightM13]

looks like the manhunt is on...

he's name is Tobe Hayden Leigh

A conspiracy nutjob whose Facebook page shows him hosting a massive party on New Year’s Eve

 

[cleavers]

Pascal Soriot: "There are a lot of emotions on vaccines in EU. But it's complicated"

An exclusive interview with AstraZeneca's CEO on the accusations from Europe after the delay of Oxford vaccine supplies, some revealing details of the vacc…

www.repubblica.it

Interview with the AZ boss about it. They ordered the doses but AZ were clear from day one that it wasn’t likely and said they would do the best they they could.

it’s a long read but well worth it.

Yes very interesting, and sounds like the EU have no grounds for complaint.

 

[03 March 2002]

Pascal Soriot: "There are a lot of emotions on vaccines in EU. But it's complicated"

An exclusive interview with AstraZeneca's CEO on the accusations from Europe after the delay of Oxford vaccine supplies, some revealing details of the vacc…

www.repubblica.it

Interview with the AZ boss about it. They ordered the doses but AZ were clear from day one that it wasn’t likely and said they would do the best they they could.

it’s a long read but well worth it.

Haven't had chance to look at it, but it begs the question, what did the EU plan to do to split 80m doses amongst what? 450m people?

 

[Gabriel]

Pascal Soriot: "There are a lot of emotions on vaccines in EU. But it's complicated"

An exclusive interview with AstraZeneca's CEO on the accusations from Europe after the delay of Oxford vaccine supplies, some revealing details of the vacc…

www.repubblica.it

Interview with the AZ boss about it. They ordered the doses but AZ were clear from day one that it wasn’t likely and said they would do the best they they could.

it’s a long read but well worth it.

Thanks for that.
When you read it and look at the projected timescales, it really does not look good for Europe, and by Europe I don’t mean just the EU but also the many countries that bought in and ordered. The longer it takes to vaccinate people there, the longer new variants have to enter and take hold, and that’s a danger for everyone.

 

[Gabriel]

I noticed in Scotland that about 72% of the vaccinations so far have been with the Pfizer vaccine, which surprised me. I haven't been able to find any figures for England but does anyone know how it compares?

The Pfizer vaccine needs to be stored between -60c and -80c, so just room temperature in a Scottish winter.

Probably related to the lower number of vaccines given and the prioritisation of people in care homes.

 

[Cassandra]

The Pfizer vaccine needs to be stored between -60c and -80c, so just room temperature in a Scottish winter.

Probably related to the lower number of vaccines given and the prioritisation of people in care homes.

Thanks, I was just wondering whether the logistics of moving the Pfizer vaccine around compared to the AZ one, plus the need to keep supplies back for the second round (given the uncertainty in supplies) might be contributing to the proportionally lower numbers of vaccinations being carried out in Scotland.
As you say it might just be that our ambient temperature means we can dispense with cold storage for the Pfizer vaccine!

 

[grunge]

The vitamin tablets nonsense was pure “Dr Facebook”

vitamin D isn’t. Lots of evidence out there it helps. And I mean real science, not Facebook science :)

not defending that guy by any standards, total whack job.

but everyone should be taking vitamin D supplements.

 

[Healdplace]

Vitamin D for all those immobilised and unable to get out much has been an NHS norm long before the pandemic.

It was prescribed to my mum long ago after she had a massive stroke that left her bedbound for years and in need of round the clock care. I looked after her for 15 years once she was able to be released from months in hospital and did all her medications of which there were many. I had training on what they all were and why they mattered.

So this is not remotely a new fad tied to the pandemic. It is why I have been taking Vit D supplements myself since the first lockdown because I knew why they would help. They are very cheap to buy and even places like Asda sell them.

Why they are giving them out on prescription I do not know as the prescription costs more than the pills do to buy in a shop.

 

[Gray]

Yes very interesting, and sounds like the EU have no grounds for complaint.

I hope they are not trying to throw their weight around to nick our supply.

 

[BlueAnorak]

vitamin D isn’t. Lots of evidence out there it helps. And I mean real science, not Facebook science :)

not defending that guy by any standards, total whack job.

but everyone should be taking vitamin D supplements.

4000 IU or 100mg a day too for anyone over 50.
The evidence is now overwhelming.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Dear God the EU have so badly fucked up it's unbelievable. I can see this getting very nasty as they thrash around looking for a scapegoat.

 

[BlueAnorak]

If the EU had been willing to throw as much EU cash and resources as possible at vaccines, in a time critical way, like the UK has, then they wouldn't be in the mess they currently are.
The EU can never be wrong though, so they will find a scapegoat to excuse their incompetence.
Approving the Oxford/AstraZenica vaccine in timely fashion would also have helped their cause - especially as Astrazenica are selling it at cost price.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Remember in the autumn when the EU were crowing about the cost of vaccines to them?
Paying peanuts for something in a contract generally has implications in terms of manufacturing costs and snag resolution leading to delays.

 

[Marvin]

Vallance claimed that the UK infection rate was not falling as fast as the testing data but the evidence he cited sounded like an old ONS survey

 

[BlueAnorak]

Vaccinating NHS staff is starting to have an effect on the number of in-patients catching Covid-19.

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www.telegraph.co.uk

(Only the headline available to the general public.)

NHS infection control has been a shambles since the days of Matron controling things with SENs came to an end and it's pretty clear it still is.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Vallance claimed that the UK infection rate was not falling as fast as the testing data but the evidence he cited sounded like an old ONS survey

There’s also evidence from Public Health England that the main testing regime didn’t pick up the majority of cases amongst people who couldn’t work from home, in a heavily infected part of London.

Anyway, it’s good news that the cases are reducing and hopefully that’s at the rate in the daily Government figures.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

The Government are delaying naming a Chief Executive for their National Institute of Health Protection. They’ve (unofficially) offered the job to Dido Harding but won’t confirm that given the disastrous job she’s done on track and trace. Maybe, the jingoistic cover of the fall out with the EU will give Hancock and co the political cover they feel they need to make such an appointment and sack Simon Stevens.

 

[Del_Bosque]

Simon Stevens is retiring this year.

Probably with a place in the Lords if Vaccine roll out goes well

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Simon Stevens is retiring this year.

He’s been told to retire

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Coronavirus infections at highest level since May, study warns | ITV News

The findings from Imperial College London’s React study show infections in England have flattened but are at the highest level recorded. | ITV National News

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