Political relations between UK-EU

[BobKowalski]

BBC with a fascinating look at the impact of non tariff barriers on the fishing industry

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Yes leaving is the decision, the question was how do we fix the issues it has caused.Its a fact we won’t better off unless we fix them. My question is what do you think we do to fix them.What changes do we need to make to fix Ireland , or businesses increased issues.
What changes to the agreement need making.

I'm afraid I'm not really in the mood for a long diatribe in response to your
request, fixing problems is the responsibility of governments, not mine.
As I said, they're looking at NI as we speak, what will happen, I don't know as yet.
But you can tell us what you'd do, if you like.

 

[Metal Biker]

A bit shit is an understatement, Northern Ireland is being looked at, and I'll
be interested to see the outcome, but Von de Leyen's antics have not exactly helped the EU stance. The rest of your post are simply societal issues that everyone is, and will be facing, but as of now, leaving the EU is proving to be a decision, even if solely focussing on this one aspect of vaccines, and as posted above, there are others, to be the best thing we've done.
Dispute this if you like, I'm sure you and others will, but it's an absolute
fact that you're better off here, and out of it.

Maybe Scotland should split.

I don't mean from the UK, I mean in half, with the pro-EU, anti-UK western Scotland areas leaving and the more pro-UK eastern Scotland areas remaining with the UK. Split Scotland in two and allow one side to leave and the other to stay! Everyone's happy then!

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Just as they wanted to see us fail whilst we were a member.
Old habits die hard.

It was never in doubt that it would be the French that kicked off with their
vindictive shit, Macron is lashing out after his own failures are now screaming to the world, and his response?
Let's kick the Rosbifs, nobody will notice.

 

[blueparrot]

Just as I’m asking for some solutions it’s only fair I offer mine. May be a bit simplistic, it seems so, so maybe it will be pointed out the obvious flaws in my plan.
Anyway my answer that seems to solve most issues for me is this.
We get the N.Ireland Brexit agreement up, select all and simply copy and paste on to the England, Wales Scotland agreement. That’s it really. Surely then if we all have the same agreement the issues of border controls with N.Ireland go away. Many checks between the EU and the whole UK go away as we’d be the same as N.I and they don’t have checks with the Republic . Then we can get on with life outside the EU in a much easier less complicated way.
As I say sounds way too simplistic to be right.

 

[Metal Biker]

It was never in doubt that it would be the French that kicked off with their
vindictive shit, Macron is lashing out after his own failures are now screaming to the world, and his response?
Let's kick the Rosbifs, nobody will notice.

My presidency is failing, the public hates me, what should I do?

Kick up a spat with the UK for no reason! It's all very, what's the new buzzword... 'Trumpian' of Macron.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Maybe Scotland should split.

I don't mean from the UK, I mean in half, with the pro-EU, anti-UK western Scotland areas leaving and the more pro-UK eastern Scotland areas remaining with the UK. Split Scotland in two and allow one side to leave and the other to stay! Everyone's happy then!

Aye, it's a bit unfortunate that Western Scotland is further away from their beloved EU than the eastern bit. That would mean getting a visa to get from
Glasgow to Edinburgh;)

 

[Metal Biker]

Just as I’m asking for some solutions it’s only fair I offer mine. May be a bit simplistic, it seems so, so maybe it will be pointed out the obvious flaws in my plan.
Anyway my answer that seems to solve most issues for me is this.
We get the N.Ireland Brexit agreement up, select all and simply copy and paste on to the England, Wales Scotland agreement. That’s it really. Surely then if we all have the same agreement the issues of border controls with N.Ireland go away. Many checks between the EU and the whole UK go away as we’d be the same as N.I and they don’t have checks with the Republic . Then we can get on with life outside the EU in a much easier less complicated way.
As I say sounds way too simplistic to be right.

Rejoining the EU will not fix any of the problems you've highlighted.

Just want to point that out. Scotland and Wales don't share a border with an EU country. Northern Ireland does, that's why its still in the Single Market and Great Britain is not. That's the crucial difference. Your solution will not work.

 

[BobKowalski]

A positive assessment from Barclays on finance and the City, in that the City has to look at different ways of doing business rather than hankering after what helped build the City in the first place. Green finance, new financial instruments, creating money out of nothing can be done. Also an interesting take on regulation and it’s importance.

That said, the City is still hankering after equivalence with the EU.

Barclays urges UK to focus on US and Asia post Brexit

Brexit gives one of the UK's most important sectors the chance to define its own agenda, he said.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Metal Biker]

Aye, it's a bit unfortunate that Western Scotland is further away from their beloved EU than the eastern bit. That would mean getting a visa to get from
Glasgow to Edinburgh;)

Its what they want, apparently. They could always go the long way around. The Outer Hebrides are lovely this time of year.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Its what they want, apparently. They could always go the ong way around. The Outer Hebrides are lovely this time of year.

Been to Islay, Barra and Skye, which are the inner Hebrides I believe, beautiful
places, fly from Glasgow to Barra and you land on the beach, or used to.
Palm trees waving, crystal clear sea, it could have been Barbados, a lovely place.

 

[BobKowalski]

Just as I’m asking for some solutions it’s only fair I offer mine. May be a bit simplistic, it seems so, so maybe it will be pointed out the obvious flaws in my plan.
Anyway my answer that seems to solve most issues for me is this.
We get the N.Ireland Brexit agreement up, select all and simply copy and paste on to the England, Wales Scotland agreement. That’s it really. Surely then if we all have the same agreement the issues of border controls with N.Ireland go away. Many checks between the EU and the whole UK go away as we’d be the same as N.I and they don’t have checks with the Republic . Then we can get on with life outside the EU in a much easier less complicated way.
As I say sounds way too simplistic to be right.

Pretty much, yes. The UK as a whole signs up to the Single Market then a great many issues disappear overnight. The problems we have are regulatory and are a consequence of being outside the Single Market and being subject to the barriers that all countries outside the Single Market face.

You can’t ‘beat’ the Single Market, and the Govt lying about their deal, non tariff barriers and the Irish Sea border isn’t sustainable.

 

[Metal Biker]

Been to Islay, Barra and Skye, which are the inner Hebrides I believe, beautiful
places, fly from Glasgow to Barra and you land on the beach, or used to.
Palm trees waving, crystal clear sea, it could have been Barbados, a lovely place.

I was sadly with a group that didn't enjoy cold too much and ruined the trip for most of us.

 

[Metal Biker]

Pretty much, yes. The UK as a whole signs up to the Single Market then a great many issues disappear overnight. The problems we have are regulatory and are a consequence of being outside the Single Market and being subject to the barriers that all countries outside the Single Market face.

You can’t ‘beat’ the Single Market, and the Govt lying about their deal, non tariff barriers and the Irish Sea border isn’t sustainable.

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[Ancient Citizen]

I was sadly with a group that didn't enjoy cold too much and ruined the trip for most of us.

Ah, I went in midsummer, it was brilliant. I worked for Loganair then, and flew to every single destination in Scotland, one was a hop from Westray to Papa Westray, in the Orkneys, the shortest commercial flight in the world at 47 seconds. The straight between them can't use vessels, it's a maelstrom and too
dangerous.
Anyway, we digress...

 

[Metal Biker]

Ah, I went in midsummer, it was brilliant. I worked for Loganair then, and flew to every single destination in Scotland, one was a hop from Westray to Papa Westray, in the Orkneys, the shortest commercial flight in the world at 47 seconds. The straight between them can't use vessels, it's a maelstrom and too
dangerous.
Anyway, we digress...

Late October 2015 for me.

Indeed we do.

 

[west didsblue]

A positive assessment from Barclays on finance and the City, in that the City has to look at different ways of doing business rather than hankering after what helped build the City in the first place. Green finance, new financial instruments, creating money out of nothing can be done. Also an interesting take on regulation and it’s importance.

That said, the City is still hankering after equivalence with the EU.

Barclays urges UK to focus on US and Asia post Brexit

Brexit gives one of the UK's most important sectors the chance to define its own agenda, he said.

www.bbc.co.uk

AC also posted that article twice in the same post. He must have got really excited that he found an article with a positive spin on Brexit, even if it did mention the £1Tn exodus of capital and the loss so far of 10,000 jobs.

To be honest I'm surprised Mr Staley, the source of this article, is still in a job. Most people who break FCA rules and get fined nearly a million pounds (reduced by a third because he paid early) would have had to resign or would have been sacked. Interestingly the fine related to improper practice right at the time of the Brexit vote. I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Also I've not seen the outcome of the investigation into his 15 year friendship with Jeffrey Epstein yet that concluded 5 years after Epstein's court case. Anyway as long as he talks positively about Brexit, I'm sure his career will be safe.

 

[hilts]

Aye, it's a bit unfortunate that Western Scotland is further away from their beloved EU than the eastern bit. That would mean getting a visa to get from
Glasgow to Edinburgh;)

Maybe we could make some sort of arrangement where we allow the good people of Scotland to be either Scottish British or European in the hope that it will appease everyone and not cause to much bother.

We could call it The battered fry day agreement or Bifda for short.

Be aware though that like the American constitutions 2nd amendment it must last forever.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

AC also posted that article twice in the same post. He must have got really excited that he found an article with a positive spin on Brexit,

AC is great at that. He didn't get too excited about that particular piece, but
chuckled so much at the fact Macron's countrymen are sending their products to us before he gets his mitts on them.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

AC also posted that article twice in the same post. He must have got really excited that he found an article with a positive spin on Brexit, even if it did mention the £1Tn exodus of capital and the loss so far of 10,000 jobs.

To be honest I'm surprised Mr Staley, the source of this article, is still in a job. Most people who break FCA rules and get fined nearly a million pounds (reduced by a third because he paid early) would have had to resign or would have been sacked. Interestingly the fine related to improper practice right at the time of the Brexit vote. I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Also I've not seen the outcome of the investigation into his 15 year friendship with Jeffrey Epstein yet that concluded 5 years after Epstein's court case. Anyway as long as he talks positively about Brexit, I'm sure his career will be safe.

Ouch.

Worse than that though, he's a Red Sox fan.