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The thieving gits! Last week I submitted a question to the cabinet office to see if I could get on TV. It was around removing restrictions on a data-driven basis instead of specifying dates. Suffice to say that my question wasn't selected for the briefings but now it's all the rage in the news with even the PM saying that the approach will be "data-driven".

To be fair, it is a logical and obvious approach, which is why I thought that the government wouldn't have thought of it.
 
RobMCFC said:
The thieving gits! Last week I submitted a question to the cabinet office to see if I could get on TV. It was around removing restrictions on a data-driven basis instead of specifying dates. Suffice to say that my question wasn't selected for the briefings but now it's all the rage in the news with even the PM saying that the approach will be "data-driven".

To be fair, it is a logical and obvious approach, which is why I thought that the government wouldn't have thought of it.
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I bet Worsley mentioned it to Boris during one of the government briefings :-)
 
I love that story in the Telegraph as to how the Liverpool Echo politics reporter got offered a jab.

They misread his height (6 feet 2 inches) for 6.2 cm and entered it into his records then decided he had a BMI of 28,000 making him morbidly obese.

Not quite sure how they were going to get him to the jab. In a tank?
 
Just been for my daily constitutional and the roads are rammed with cars and plenty of people on the streets in groups. And despite being in a pandemic for nearly a year I would that whilst people are wearing masks at least a third of them are wearing them incorrectly. How hard is it? Just wondering where all the cars are going for it to be so busy.
 
Eds said:
Just been for my daily constitutional and the roads are rammed with cars and plenty of people on the streets in groups. And despite being in a pandemic for nearly a year I would that whilst people are wearing masks at least a third of them are wearing them incorrectly. How hard is it? Just wondering where all the cars are going for it to be so busy.
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Barnard Castle.
 
Eds said:
Just been for my daily constitutional and the roads are rammed with cars and plenty of people on the streets in groups. And despite being in a pandemic for nearly a year I would that whilst people are wearing masks at least a third of them are wearing them incorrectly. How hard is it? Just wondering where all the cars are going for it to be so busy.
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They are probably on the way to John Lennon airport to welcome back the all conquering world champions back from Budapest and not wearing their masks properly because they are full of phlegm
 
Healdplace said:
According to the Telegraph today btw they claim Boris has decided not to reduce restrictions significantly in early March. And that we need to be sub 1000 cases a day sustainably before we do so.
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I don't pay any attention to what the different papers are speculating/demanding/being briefed about the easing of Lockdown.

But is sub-1000 (assume in England) cases even possible ? Were we ever at that level in the Summer when we had testing ramped up and widely available ? That would equate to less than TEN cases a day in the Manchester LA area.
 
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On vaccine rollout elsewhere...

Looks like EU deliveries and plans are accelerating considerably, and published plans in some states (Denmark...) are now actually faster than UK. We'll see if it turns out that way.

Really great news. Let's help vaccinate the world next.

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I heard the US quoted as having done over 50 million too. That seems to be fast escalation
 
Healdplace said:
According to the Telegraph today btw they claim Boris has decided not to reduce restrictions significantly in early March. And that we need to be sub 1000 cases a day sustainably before we do so.

If true the current plateau outside the south needs to either self resolve or be addressed

We might just be lagging behind areas that had further to fall and are back to normal levels. The NW (Merseyside especially) was a week or two behind the new variant uptick that happened down south and the idiotic decision to keep Merseyside out of top tier was a massive error that has not helped and many of the big numbers of deaths daily in the NW (112 yesterday - over half of them then being an example) are from there.

I am hoping we are just running that bit behind as hospital numbers showed that. Up until last week the NW was flatlining there or going down very slowly but in the past four or five days that fall seems to have accelerated.

So the same thing might happen with cases in coming days.

GM has no major issue right now. It is about twice as high as its norm from the autumn as opposed to about 5 times as high as it was a few weeks ago.

So it has plateaued a little but at modest numbers.

Where it goes from here though is critical. If it starts noticeably rising that will be a concern.
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I’d rather they wait until we are almost certain we won’t need to go back into lockdown again and then do it.

I want to be rid of these restrictions once and for all and I am willing to wait a little longer to get that.

Of course others may feel differently but that’s how I feel
 
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Nice to see Zoe Ap supporting what the data is showing and I have been saying in here for days.

Though worrying because I was hoping I was reading it wrong.

But it was VERY clear the southern regions have -plummeted and the North West is struggling to go lower and that at best GM has flatlined in the past week at still too high a level as my GM updates each evening have been warning.

Of course, they took vaccine away from here to hand over to the south exactly when this happened. Something that was most unfortunate and regional leaders really ought to be screaming about even if it had no actual direct connection. As it probably didn't. It was not a great PR move as this trend was already appearing when they did it.
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Surely the reallocation is too recent to show up on figures yet?

I think shouting about it would just ramp up illwill, and it should be handled privately first. If the plan was always "top 4 bands first everywhere" then they can't argue too hard without looking selfish (and imagine how some here would react if it was the other way around...).

What there should be is a resetting back once the four bands are done, until all 9 bands are done in an area. The number of reports which imply that there is significant excess in some areas is still baffling.
 
I'm not sure if it's been addressed already, but why am I reading conflicting reports on this virus?

Several reports say we're 'winning the war' on the virus and yet, from the same publications I'm reading that the virus has mutated as different variants have joined into a new dangerous form!!

I don't know what's true any more with the virus news!
 
The goalposts seem to be shifting on lifting restrictions all the time

first off it was once groups 1-4 are done

then it was 3 weeks after groups 1-9

now it’s variants and case numbers

Personally think it should be outdoor hospitality in April

indoor in May

then from July onwards I don’t think there’s justification for any restrictions really, everyone who wants one will have had 1 jab, the mosy at risk will have had 2
 
England hospital deaths 3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v Today


973 / 138 NW / 14%

707 / 102 NW / 14%

664 / 89 NW / 13%

522 / 104 NW / 20% Today

That NW total is rather concerning.

Regionally:-

104 North West, 104 Midlands. 89 London, 68 East. 60 NE & Yorkshire 54 South East, 43 South West

The most deaths in England today by health trust were

21 Liverpool, 20 North Lincolnshire, 18 Manchester, 12 Stockport.
 
unicorn said:
Agree. At what stage would you feel almost certain?
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That's the hardest question ever.

Assuming Schools start to re-open in March figure will no doubt go up as well.

Personally I think we need to be at the most in the mid single thousands infections per day....that however, may never/not happen until late April/May.

I'm lucky that financially living as we are in no hardship all I miss is playing Golf (spring to autumn), going to City and going for an afternoon beer. I'm fully aware that other people have mental issues, financial ones, family issues, a vested interest is hospitality etc. In essence it's the Govt job ideally taking advice from Scientists who should be looking at the position impartially.
 
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