My comment was a little facetious.
The point is that although the government have done well with the vaccine role out, and there are plenty of people who hate this Government who acknowledge this, you have to take in to account their overall handling of the pandemic.
Agree non of those listed want to inflict pain and misery (there's plenty around that have and still do). I don't think all politicians want what's best for the country, some want wealth and power and the consequences be damned, I'd have Johnson in this category.
What you need to realise is that you do not know what all my opinions are and you may find that 'd you'd agree with some and that I may agree with some of yours.
I generally agree with your last point, but I'll add 'the right' are equally as guilty of this.
This is just an online forum after all, so we're all more likely to double down on our opinions (you and me included). The reality would be much different, if we were, God forbid, put together to sort out any of these issues, we'd more than likely find the middle ground by respecting each others views.
On your first point, there is the odd person yes, however the majority on this forum who are of a certain political persuasion, would rather be seen dead than state the vaccine rollout was a good job, even alongside the many criticisms.
I have seen posters state, in one post, that they are to be blamed for the track and trace errors, but in another post a day later, that the vaccine rollout speed isn’t down to them. It’s astonishing how people can be the opposite of objective.
I am not accusing you of this by the way.
I apologise, I have made a presumption based on your posts you’re like the baying socialist mob on here. That’s an error on my part, as other than those who I’ve read posts from for years, and can easily categorise them, as they’re a bleeding stuck record, I try not to do with it with everyone else.
You do make a good point. My colleague and I discuss politics over a pint and he’s a left winger, who wants democratic socialism but he also engages heavily in identity politics. He’s almost your stereotypical beta male “there’s more than two genders and Corbyn was the perfect candidate” type of left winger, you see these days.
On here he’d do what some of the other ideologues have done and would have me on ignore because conservatism would upset him. However, over a pint, we do often find middle ground on certain subjects, believe it or not.
Anyway, the right do it as well, absolutely, but I feel since liberalism, for several decades, has become the mainstream political force in the UK, both economically and socially, some traditional positions, such as traditional economic socialism (of the Attlee variety) and social conservatism, have had to take a bit of a back seat, and quite naturally, are more tolerant of the views of others, because of being out of the limelight.
The big conflict is, social conservatism is gaining traction and has been for a number of years, within the working classes and that’s why the Tories are doing so well, because they are the only party offering patriotism and some other social conservatism, however on the latter, nowhere near enough for me.
The social left have had so much go in their favour, for so long, and with the social left literally being a movement of progressing as quickly as they can, more traditional views aren’t tolerated any longer and the minute someone like me, posts something on here, about abortion or the trans phenomenon, that doesn’t fit the status quo, it’s like white blood cells attacking an intruder.
That’s why the identity political crowd are intolerant, alongside the fact they’ve naturally put themselves only in contact with those they agree, for 99% of their lives, and they get a shock when someone says something they disagree with... again, that’s why the only people who have told me I’m going on ignore on here, are all to the social left.
