Coronavirus (2021) thread

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paulchapo said:
I saw a link to literally thousands of pretty horrific reactions to both vaccines, it gives numbers and data. I didn't post it here because I didn't want the stress of dealing with the usual suspects jumping on me telling me I'm a loon and a tinfoil hat nutter. This lockdown has had me on the edge as it is. For the record my sister and her husband had the virus so I am no denier. I also had the Astra Zenica jab myself in January. I have had some side effects which I still have and filled in the yellow reporting link but I've had no follow up other than a generic e mail. I just hope it works and we get back to normality soon.
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Cheers chappo that’s 90% on here you’ve frightened the fucking life out of:) unfortunately we are going to have instances of the virus causing serious reactions but I’m sure the good will outweigh the bad the vaccine is doing
 
Indaparkside said:
Cheers chappo that’s 90% on here you’ve frightened the fucking life out of:) unfortunately we are going to have instances of the virus causing serious reactions but I’m sure the good will outweigh the bad the vaccine is doing
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Sorry mate and that was another reason I didn't post it. My own experience and hearing Tinys dad's horrific reaction I felt it should be mentioned. Actually that was in the response they sent me, the good vaccines do outweighs the risks for the majority. That's fine if it isn't you or a loved one that has the reaction I guess. I'm alarmed it's being hidden away but I realise they want people to have the jab. If the world gets out of this because of it then yes you can say it was justified.
 
paulchapo said:
Sorry mate and that was another reason I didn't post it. My own experience and hearing Tinys dad's horrific reaction I felt it should be mentioned. Actually that was in the response they sent me, the good vaccines do outweighs the risks for the majority. That's fine if it isn't you or a loved one that has the reaction I guess. I'm alarmed it's being hidden away but I realise they want people to have the jab. If the world gets out of this because of it then yes you can say it was justified.
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Yes unfortunately the vaccine was needed ASAP and has had to be rushed through for obvious reasons, the safety aspect we won’t know about properly given you can’t know everything in 12 months some issues may not show for years to come. Yes it’s very sad about @TINY father let’s hope he pulls through
 
Indaparkside said:
Yes unfortunately the vaccine was needed ASAP and has had to be rushed through for obvious reasons, the safety aspect we won’t know about properly given you can’t know everything in 12 months some issues may not show for years to come. Yes it’s very sad about @TINY father let’s hope he pulls through
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Yes me too I really feel for him and his dad.
 
TINY said:
My dad was admitted to hospitsl 4 weeks ago, he’s been on a ventilator nearly 4 weeks. He made progress but has nose dived, now has pneumonia, I don’t think he’s going to make it.

Doctors attribute it to the vaccine he had 48 hours prior sending his body into overdrive
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My thoughts and prayers are with you and yours.
 
Indaparkside said:
Yes unfortunately the vaccine was needed ASAP and has had to be rushed through for obvious reasons, the safety aspect we won’t know about properly given you can’t know everything in 12 months some issues may not show for years to come. Yes it’s very sad about @TINY father let’s hope he pulls through
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Key factors that are accelerating the roll out of the vaccine include manufacturers producing doses in advance of regulatory approval and the level of resources that have gone into vaccine development. If the approval isn’t given the the doses are binned.

The regulatory frameworks for approval haven’t changed as far as I know. There has been transparency about who couldn’t be tested within the timeframes for the approved vaccines eg children and pregnant women.

People saying there is a big adverse reaction might as well post the links so people who really know about these things (not me) can look at the pros and cons.
 
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WHO report saying highly likely that the virus did start in bats but the chain to humans is unclear.

Also says it is highly unlikely that it comes from a laboratory.
 
Cheesy said:
WHO report saying highly likely that the virus did start in bats but the chain to humans is unclear.

Also says it is highly unlikely that it comes from a laboratory.
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Well we can all relax knowing that this has been properly put to bed as China gave the WHO investigative team full open access to everything and everyone and didnt try to hide anything. So that's ok then.
 
Canada have suspended use of AZ in under 55s due to blood clot fears, citing new evidence in Europe that the rate of rare clots is 1 in 100k, instead of the usual 1 in 1 million.

Dunno where they're getting this from but there we go

Also 2 thirds of surveyed virologists and epidemiologists say a new vaccination campaign will be required within a year. Great.
 
shemnel said:
Canada have suspended use of AZ in under 55s due to blood clot fears, citing new evidence in Europe that the rate of rare clots is 1 in 100k, instead of the usual 1 in 1 million.

Dunno where they're getting this from but there we go

Also 2 thirds of surveyed virologists and epidemiologists say a new vaccination campaign will be required within a year. Great.
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A decent thread on that decision and it's reasoning.
 
shemnel said:
Canada have suspended use of AZ in under 55s due to blood clot fears, citing new evidence in Europe that the rate of rare clots is 1 in 100k, instead of the usual 1 in 1 million.

Dunno where they're getting this from but there we go

Also 2 thirds of surveyed virologists and epidemiologists say a new vaccination campaign will be required within a year. Great.
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Viruses don’t stand still so there will be updated vaccines required to tackle any changes. The flu jab is changed every year so the covid one will need it too, they are even looking at a combined flu and covid jab and also a vaccine you can administer as a nasal spray.
 
PannickAtTheDisco said:
that's an alarming development that it's provoked something like that, hope he pulls through and things like this get raised and dealt with as we can't have a vaccine killing people.
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You're right - we can't, and although I'm pro-vaxx if there are any issues as serious as this one which prove to be directly related to the vaccine then it absolutely needs to be in the public domain. However, what I also find concerning in TINY's dad's case is that he was still in recovery from Covid and they said it was safe for him to have the vaccine. To my knowledge, the guidance is that no-one should be having the vaccine until at least 28 days after they have come out of isolation, and I would imagine that also means 28 days after you're deemed to have fully recovered. It seems clear from the updates TINY has been posting that his dad wasn't fully recovered and surely that means he shouldn't have been given the vaccine when he was? Perhaps a poster far better qualified than me can clarify but it smacks of a monumental cock-up from someone to me.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Viruses don’t stand still so there will be updated vaccines required to tackle any changes. The flu jab is changed every year so the covid one will need it too, they are even looking at a combined flu and covid jab and also a vaccine you can administer as a nasal spray.
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Taking a vaccine doesn’t bother me. It's trivial.

What bothers me is the prospect of months of sub-optimal activity. I want to meet in a room of people and discuss things and do all the normal things. I want to go to tbe Etihad with 50,000 blues. When is that happening?
 
Marvin said:
Taking a vaccine doesn’t bother me. It's trivial.

What bothers me is the prospect of months of sub-optimal activity. I want to meet in a room of people and discuss things and do all the normal things. I want to go to tbe Etihad with 50,000 blues. When is that happening?
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we have come along way in 12 months even though it doesn’t seem it, patience my friend it will happen
 
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