Erling Haaland

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tolmie's hairdoo said:
You've answered your own question, why do it so publicly?

Who stands to gain from it...

A deal of such magnitude is done away from prying eyes, you certainly don't telegraph it for your rivals to counter and outbid you.

It serves Mino, it serves Laporte.

City would rather depend on Messi alone and wait than get played.

Thankfully, City are proper operators and know the lay of the land to inform their workings.
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It also serves BVB. To the extent that Dortmund can drive a bidding war - whether real or perceived, helps them push their €180 million demand for the player. There is a reason that Chelsea and Barça are included in this courtship - because they are known to pay-up. That helps BVB more than it helps Haaland.
 
Cobwebcat said:
If BD are really saying they won’t sell this Summer I cant see this £90 million release clause being true even though the journalist is a good one.
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That is certainly one of the typical wordings clubs use in situations like this.
 
lee_wsm said:
Until the player or his dad says he does I would take it as he is undecided if he wants to play for us
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Hmmm? Measured response or be a tit and post something snarky?

I have to say I'm leaning towards being a tit and posting a snarky response.
 
KennyG said:
Why would they travel in person, in a pandemic? No coincidence FFP has been derailed, either. We’ve yet to buy an established great, and it’s a mountain every premier league side is yet to conquer.

Madrid/Barca can bend the finances and offer the sun. I fear a Kelechi buyback will be the solution.
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Totally agree apart from Ianacho. We should be over the moon if we get Grealish and Kane this summer.
 
Gumzy97 said:
From an article on ESPN about Barca's debt

Everything's not just fine: over a billion euros in debt; wages accounting for 74% of the budget; a short-term debt of €720m; €186m in amortisations; a €488m loss in 2019-20; the need, somehow, to raise almost €200m this summer alone; a negative working capital of €602m; a long list of players to be paid for.

That list of players, by the way, makes for grim reading: €40m on Philippe Coutinho, €48 on Frenkie de Jong, €9.8m on Francisco Trincao, €52m on Miralem Pjanic (who only came as an act of financial engineering in the first place), €8m on Arthur (the man they sold while signing Pjanic, purely to bring the books in line), €6m on Emerson (who hasn't even arrived yet), €10.14m on Malcolm (who's been and gone). They still owe Bayern Munich for Arturo Vidal and Eibar for Marc Cucurella, and on it goes.

Yes, they're owed €46m by other clubs too -- although imagine if they default -- but they owe €126m.spke of those fees
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Gumzy97 said:
From an article on ESPN about Barca's debt

Everything's not just fine: over a billion euros in debt; wages accounting for 74% of the budget; a short-term debt of €720m; €186m in amortisations; a €488m loss in 2019-20; the need, somehow, to raise almost €200m this summer alone; a negative working capital of €602m; a long list of players to be paid for.

That list of players, by the way, makes for grim reading: €40m on Philippe Coutinho, €48 on Frenkie de Jong, €9.8m on Francisco Trincao, €52m on Miralem Pjanic (who only came as an act of financial engineering in the first place), €8m on Arthur (the man they sold while signing Pjanic, purely to bring the books in line), €6m on Emerson (who hasn't even arrived yet), €10.14m on Malcolm (who's been and gone). They still owe Bayern Munich for Arturo Vidal and Eibar for Marc Cucurella, and on it goes.

Yes, they're owed €46m by other clubs too -- although imagine if they default -- but they owe €126m.
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The money they owe for transfers could be the thing that eventually kills them.

A few firms took over the debt, including from Liverpool for the Coutinho tranche.

We were close to going under in similar circumstances under Shinawatra.

Money was due for Elano, Jo and a few others after his assets were frozen.
 
nyCITY said:
It also serves BVB. To the extent that Dortmund can drive a bidding war - whether real or perceived, helps them push their €180 million demand for the player. There is a reason that Chelsea and Barça are included in this courtship - because they are known to pay-up. That helps BVB more than it helps Haaland.
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The bidding war is between the interested clubs and Haaland, not BVD
 
It really helps if you view all this circus - Mino and Alfie publicly swanning about in front of the cameras at Barca Airport, Dortmund saying he’s not for sale under any circumstances - as part of the negotiation game.

This is a complex and high stakes deal - probably the biggest this summer - with astronomical budgets sitting behind it.

The players aren’t just going to play their entire hand in the first round like a child, then stand up, leave the table and go home. Why would they, when they know they’ll make a lot more from playing this out.

Try not to take every statement at its word, and assume the deal is done or dead because of it. This isn’t going to be completed quickly - it’s too big a deal - so we’ll hear a whole lot more shit from all sides before he finally gets his move.

We’ll all save ourselves a lot of stress if we see this for what it is - a complex, high stakes negotiation, or a circus/drama with several acts - rather than a simple transaction where every word is to be taken at face value.
 
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nyCITY said:
It also serves BVB. To the extent that Dortmund can drive a bidding war - whether real or perceived, helps them push their €180 million demand for the player. There is a reason that Chelsea and Barça are included in this courtship - because they are known to pay-up. That helps BVB more than it helps Haaland.
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The1nvisibleMan said:
I know it’s early and there are many other factors involved but I worry about missing out on this transfer due to what it represents. Having the top talent in world football pick us signifies that we’re a good destination that the best players want to choose. If not it shows we still aren’t quite at that level. Some people here won’t care or think it’s important but sometimes it is
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Please don't worry about factors you cannot control.
We will be ok.
 
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