Media Thread 2020/21

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KPXBLN said:
To be fair, different investors could have different motivations for getting involved in football. What's going on for Silverlake isn't necessarily the same as for ADUG. But as I said here, Wilson's article doesn't explain what it is that he's complaining about, which I think is true for everything I've read on the subject.
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I am sure Sheikh Mansour wants to make money and like most other businesses in that region he needs to diversify his portfolio away from fossil fuels. Silverlake also want to make money for their investors.
The concept of sportswashing is just absurd. For example Dubai is trying to build its brand as a tourist destination and so far has been successful. To do that it has to promote itself sometimes by sponsoring sport events. The idea that it is doing that to hide its human rights abuses is ridiculous.
I actually believe that so called "sportswashing" is just a fabricated concept. There are a hell of a lot of people making money out of the "human rights industry." There are a lot of wealthy people at the top of the overseas charities sector and some of them don't care a jot about human rights. I am not criticising the genuine voluntary workers but I am cynical.
 
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Where the fuck do these no mark twitterer, media types spring from ?
I'm no aficionado on journalists and suchlike so it may just be me, but I've never even heard of 99% of them, they make the odd 'controversial' statement then disappear, is it really just a desperate ploy to get attention and get their 15 minutes of fame in the hope it leads somewhere or something else ?
If so that's one of the saddest, most needy things I've ever come across, and I've been on POF !
 

Third Liverpool FC store opens in Dubai​

https://gulfnews.com/sport/uae-sport/third-liverpool-fc-store-opens-in-dubai-1.72839736

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This Means More Money.

Trio of legends land in Dubai to kick off LFC World​

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/lfc-world/301526-gerrard-mcallister-mcmanaman-dubai-lfc-world

Steven Gerrard, Gary McAllister and Steve McManaman landed in Dubai on Thursday for the latest edition of LFC World presented by Standard Chartered.

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This Means More Money.

LFC announce International Academy for UAE​

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/193763-lfc-announce-international-academy-for-uae

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This Means More Money.





This Means More Sweaty Jockstraps.
 
JGL07 said:
I don’t really think you can blame the usual suspects for the decline of the likes of Red Star. That was always going to happen when Yugoslavia split into seven different countries with seven different Leagues. Similarly with the break up of the USSR into 15 different counties. Croatia still seem to be able to produce great footballers but few, if any, of the best will play in the Croatian League.

Also the rush of money to the five biggest European Leagues has messed up club teams from Holland, Portugal, Scotland, etc., who used to be able to win European Trophies. The likes of Porto, Ajax, and Benfica have really suffered.
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yeah I agree with that but you know the point, top European clubs didn’t necessarily come from 4 countries.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
There is no such thing as "sportswashing." There is no evidence that investing money in football boosts your reputation. In fact the opposite is true because people are usually jealous and suspicious of money. Do you think California-based Silverlake invested £389m in City because they are worried about their reputation? Is that why they are developing the UK's biggest indoor arena next door to the Etihad? There is not a single line in that article by Jonathan Wilson that stands up to any scrutiny. He is a published writer but has zero journalistic skills. He's another bluffer and the Guardian is full of them.
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If Sheikh Mansour had sat on his money and not bought us, meaning there was no linkage between us, Abu Dhabi and the PL, how many of these journalists would be writing this shit? None, is the most likely answer.

Therefore this notion of 'sportswashing' is clearly nonsense, a point I've made in KOTK articles I've written. The opposite is true, in that the relationship has opened a window into the UAE and it's quite possible that change will happen because of the spotlight being placed on undesirable social and economic issues.

But at the same time, it also shows up the patronising attitude of outlets like the Guardian to other societies. While it supposedly celebrates diversity and cultural difference, it only celebrates those if these are followed in the context of Western views and norms. If not, it supports a form of cultural imperialism. "Accept our beliefs or else".
 
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bobbyowenquiff said:
There is no such thing as "sportswashing." There is no evidence that investing money in football boosts your reputation. In fact the opposite is true because people are usually jealous and suspicious of money. Do you think California-based Silverlake invested £389m in City because they are worried about their reputation? Is that why they are developing the UK's biggest indoor arena next door to the Etihad? There is not a single line in that article by Jonathan Wilson that stands up to any scrutiny. He is a published writer but has zero journalistic skills. He's another bluffer and the Guardian is full of them.
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This is a liberal left perversion of the White Man's Burden. Instead of a justification of imperial conquest as a mission of civilisation, this is the highly selective use of liberal outrage to impose western values on people not like us.
 
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How much sportswashing does it take to get the blood of 39 Italians off your hands?
How many coaches smashed up is too many?
How many asthmatics is enough to win the premiership?
How much more does it actually mean? And if it means more does that justify more extreme actions?

Our owner is related to the ruler of a country which doesnt have a great human rights record, that is a fact. But human rights in USA, Russia, or Qatar are nothing to be proud of. Standard Charter laundered money for terrorists and broke sanctions and has been caught more than once for doing so, why is that sportswashing any less?
 
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Claytop said:
That great article from Ste Tudor has made me find this again... Christ.

www.thesun.co.uk

Since Sergio Aguero arrived in England Manchester City have spent £569m on 42 players - only ONE has been a success

WHATEVER way you look at it, they are on a bad run. Name a nailed-on successful signing for Manchester City in the 5½ years since they grabbed Sergio Aguero for £35million in July 2011. Admittedly,…
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Right at home at United.
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Glad you posted this as it gives us all an opportunity to gaze in wonder at the almost supernatural prescience of Ashton.
It also makes me wonder whatever became of the ludicrously overrated and expensive DeBruyne and Sterling.
Did they ever achieve anything in their careers?
Did Ashton go on to be one the most respected and recognised experts in the world of sports journalism?
I think we should be told!!
 
Spitty gobbing on City in the Telegraph....

City’s wealth may guarantee they are always competing for every major trophy........

Suffice to say, relegation does not look like it will ever be a problem for what might mischievously be described as the First Abu Dhabi Bank club.
 
johnevans said:
Your posts on this 'pathetic' article, as you put it (and that's 'pathetic' with a capital 'P'), reminds me of one of my favourite film quotations of all time, from 'JFK', when Jim Garrison (Kevin Costner) says 'We are through the looking glass here people.. what's white is black and what's black is white..'

So-called 'journalists' like Wilson live in an 'other' world to the rest of us..
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Him and his like are a singularly unique species.
As Jim Garrison said to Clay Shaw, "people like you don't have to, I guess [talk to a District Attorney about his possible involvement in the murder of the President], people like you just walk between the raindrops..."
 
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