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[Marvin]

Sid Lowe who is an Spansh based football journalist is reporting Real Madrid's owner's comments about the English club. That might start penetrating into the consciousness of a few people.

These are just interpretations. There wont be a smoking gun but there will be a strong impression from a lot of football observers that this was a settling of scores.

The whole greed v fan power discussion the media is pushing is not very convincing. Why would City exit a set-up where we are dominant to a set-up where we'd be mid-table and where we'd have refinanced all our rivals. It's illogical. We'd have to be really financially desperate to do that. We know that Real Madrid, Man Utd and Liverpool are devious, and they plotted behind the back of football but City imo used their desperation to deliver a punch below the belt. They had it coming.

 

[M18CTID]

Anyone who reckons this is dead is fuckin dreaming.

True, and we need to be on our guard against that but I think the proposed format will need altering drastically for it to ever have a chance of getting off the ground:

No closed shop and guaranteed places for "founding members"
Far more places than the 20 on offer, making it open to every club in Europe if they qualify on merit and merit alone
A fairer qualification process than that for the CL - less weighting and less places for the stronger performing domestic leagues
A Europa League equivalent that isn't devalued by sticking games on on Thursday nights
Oh, and a publicity campaign that is far more diplomatic and far less amateurish than the shit show we've seen from Perez this week

 

[Woody135]

Anyone who thinks this was our plan all along should go re-read sorianos email.

For it to be true, he’d now need to be lying in his emails to supporters which surely puts it to bed.

They got swept up in it, made the wrong decision and righted it. Doesnt make them instigators but equally they fucked up and misjudged the eventual reaction

 

[robbieh]

Sid Lowe who is an Spansh based football journalist is reporting Real Madrid's owner's comments about the English club. That might start penetrating into the consciousness of a few people.

These are just interpretations. There wont be a smoking gun but there will be a strong impression from a lot of football observers that this was a settling of scores.

The whole greed v fan power discussion the media is pushing is not very convincing. Why would City exit a set-up where we are dominant to a set-up where we'd be mid-table and where we'd have refinanced all our rivals. It's illogical. We'd have to be really financially desperate to do that. We know that Real Madrid, Man Utd and Liverpool are devious, and they plotted behind the back of football but City imo used their desperation to deliver a punch below the belt. They had it coming.

Given these clubs don't like us why would they all just jump ship because we did. Makes no sense.

 

[nmc]

When you watch Perez’s recent ‘outbursts’ I’m not sure whether he’s taken leave of his senses or whether he’s a man in a corner absolutely desperate for a way out - (it’s probably simul both!). Almost to a one the so called legacy clubs despite the embarrassment of riches on offer have driven themselves into a mountain of unsustainable debt and now they want to steal the whole bag of money from the footballing world for themselves not only to pay off their existing debts but to start a whole new cycle of frivolous spending - I think we now know why Haarland agent was in Madrid and Barcelona because a heist was underway! How our owners - who I (just about) still respect greatly - could ever have got caught up in these crazy plans presented by desperate and power crazed individuals is beyond me.

 

[nmc]

Given these clubs don't like us why would they all just jump ship because we did. Makes no sense.

I rarely subscribe to conspiracy theories but there may - just may be a bit in this. There needed to be 6 clubs standing together for this to work - the PL votes on a 75 per cent majority rule - so with us in the tent none of the 6 could face serious sanctions or expulsion from the PL - once we left the tent - the prospect of action by the PL became possible. I’m not saying the other PL clubs would want the 6 clubs out of the PL permanently but expelling them would be a great negotiating position to start discussions.

 

[BlueDejong]

Hahahaha City lol

 

[iwasthere1968]

FOMO

Missing out on the chance to screw them over

 

[MCFC1993]

I want to believe that we joined, knowing leaving would break it apart.

Part of me is hoping the club were making a documentary about it so we can see how it unfolded.

 

[CC1]

Given these clubs don't like us why would they all just jump ship because we did. Makes no sense.

They were taken by the ankles by the public outcry

 

[Richard]

If we've essentially played the biggest game of double bluff to bring the whole thing down, I will forever be apologising to Soriano and co.

Unlikely, but still.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Hahahaha City lol

Grest news!
... and the moal of the story is don't mess with Don Mansour. You might just wake up with the equivalent of a horses head in your bed!

 

[Coatigan]

Anyone who thinks this was our plan all along should go re-read sorianos email.

For it to be true, he’d now need to be lying in his emails to supporters which surely puts it to bed.

They got swept up in it, made the wrong decision and righted it. Doesnt make them instigators but equally they fucked up and misjudged the eventual reaction

Part of that is true, about it being a mistake and it being righted. Not that lying to fans is an issue, but it isn't lying if they are taking responsibility for that part.

The issue isn't did they make a mistake or not. It is why did they make it, did they know the risk and outcome, was it worth it, and was there another way. I think they knew fine well the likelyhood of how it plays out, risked it, came out ok, better than had they not gone along. The inmediate shortlived (less than 48 hour) issues will recover. The long term shifts will remain.

 

[BlueDejong]

 

[iwasthere1968]

Sid Lowe who is an Spansh based football journalist is reporting Real Madrid's owner's comments about the English club. That might start penetrating into the consciousness of a few people.

These are just interpretations. There wont be a smoking gun but there will be a strong impression from a lot of football observers that this was a settling of scores.

The whole greed v fan power discussion the media is pushing is not very convincing. Why would City exit a set-up where we are dominant to a set-up where we'd be mid-table and where we'd have refinanced all our rivals. It's illogical. We'd have to be really financially desperate to do that. We know that Real Madrid, Man Utd and Liverpool are devious, and they plotted behind the back of football but City imo used their desperation to deliver a punch below the belt. They had it coming.

Spot on

 

[iwasthere1968]

Anyone who thinks this was our plan all along should go re-read sorianos email.

For it to be true, he’d now need to be lying in his emails to supporters which surely puts it to bed.

They got swept up in it, made the wrong decision and righted it. Doesnt make them instigators but equally they fucked up and misjudged the eventual reaction

So if we were playing a devious game what would you have him say in the letter?

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

Anyone who thinks this was our plan all along should go re-read sorianos email.

For it to be true, he’d now need to be lying in his emails to supporters which surely puts it to bed.

They got swept up in it, made the wrong decision and righted it. Doesnt make them instigators but equally they fucked up and misjudged the eventual reaction

Personally I agree that this wasn't planned and what has resulted isn't some kind of masterclass in deception. However, I don't agree with your logic, IF(and I don't believe we did) we had joined this to bring it down from the inside, wouldn't we have also have been disingenuous in doing so?

 

[HelloCity]

 

[nmc]

Personally I agree that this wasn't planned and what has resulted isn't some kind of masterclass in deception. However, I don't agree with your logic, IF(and I don't believe we did) we had joined this to bring it down from the inside, wouldn't we have also have been disingenuous in doing so?

Disingenuous? Maybe, but is that really applicable in the snake pit?

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

Disingenuous? Maybe, but is that really applicable in the snake pit?

my apologies I wasn't clear... my point was directed at the

"For it to be true, he’d now need to be lying in his emails to supporters which surely puts it to bed."

comment. Yes he could have been disingenuous when signing up to this idea and lying to the supporters in the email!