Coronavirus (2021) thread

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BlueAnorak said:
That is because the age range of those getting Covid is mostly under 20. We really need those stats to validate government decisions.
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I agree and have posted quite a bit of evidence showing that it is younger ages catching it in here today. The N I data has been showing this for a while.
 
Not sure I can bear to read this thread anymore. Triple digit deaths and City might not have fans next week? Cases nationally have been broadly between 2 and 2500 for weeks and weeks and vaccine jabs top 50 million. Fuck me. Of course we should test, trace, isolate and take reasonable precautions. But these kind of comments. It’s not last year anymore.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
I agree that's not inevitable, or even likely.

But it is possible, so we should be cautious and act rapidly if things start to go south.

Just my opinion.
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Yes these are cases rising and not deaths and it will probably take a lot more cases to create 100 deaths now than was true in January. But we have to act swiftly and stop the exponential rise in numbers and the hints of spread in GM - but we have an edge here. We have the time to squash this we would not have had in January. But we need yo act not just debate.
 
Healdplace said:
Unfortunately GM is starting to look a little concerning.

It is not just Bolton that is skyrocketing with more than TRIPLE the cases today as 7 days ago. But Manchester has shot right up to0 - at double all of the last couple of weeks daily case numbers on 71.

Other boroughs as yet less of a concern though Stockport is on 19 for third successive day and Wigan up to a recent high at 23. Small signs there of things going awry.

Nobody else in real trouble but hints of a problem.

Only Oldham has stayed low and is in single figures today. Though Rochdale and Salford also down week to week. Everyone else up.

Cases are a huge rise on yesterday - inevitably - given that between them Bolton and Manchester are 100 above their total yesterday on their own and 166 week to week between them.

By far the main reason that GM is up by 118 from yesterday - highest single day rise in many months- at 365

Which is also 173 up from last weeks 192.

As you can see whilst others are a little up Bolton alone is up by most of those rises and Manchester has contributed most of the rest today.

None of the other 8 GM boroughs rose today - either day to day or week to week - by more than single figures.

The GM total of 365 is from a North West total of 578 - miles ahead of every other region - Yorkshire in second is on 333 and FELL today. That NW total is up 178 day to day and 208 up on last Thursday. Again mostly thanks to Bolton and Manchester it would seem.

No question where the epicentre is. Starting to wonder if City will be allowed any fans next week. Things might have to change or GM could easily soon face special restrictions if evidence mounts this is spreading.
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I can see that too.

Everyone needs to take up the vaccine when offered. It works. Your comments are a constant record of that.
 
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Tonster said:
Not sure I can bear to read this thread anymore. Triple digit deaths and City might not have fans next week? Cases nationally have been broadly between 2 and 2500 for weeks and weeks and vaccine jabs top 50 million. Fuck me. Of course we should test, trace, isolate and take reasonable precautions. But these kind of comments. It’s not last year anymore.
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Both those are possibilities - both also highly unlikely right now. But ignoring what is happening as it seems too many are doing thinking this is all over is the most likely way they will.

Pretty crazy though to be sending people from Greater Manchester to Portugal right now too though and they are.
 
Tonster said:
Not sure I can bear to read this thread anymore. Triple digit deaths and City might not have fans next week? Cases nationally have been broadly between 2 and 2500 for weeks and weeks and vaccine jabs top 50 million. Fuck me. Of course we should test, trace, isolate and take reasonable precautions. But these kind of comments. It’s not last year anymore.
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Have a look at the data. You can see that in some regions in young age groups who are yet to be vaccinated the Indian strain is spreading. I think the people who make these comments are worried about the potential. Nothing more. We've seen what can happen.

I'm hopeful given 53% of the population are vaccinated but that means half are not!
 
Marvin said:
Why? Wha

I can see that too.

Everyone needs to take up the vaccine when offered. It works. Your comments are a constant record of that.
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Agreed. And thank you. But as I have said before targeted messaging is needed and more than ever right now.

Invulnerability is for myth and Superman not those saying too risky to have this vaccine.

Things like the 45% of deaths today under 60 need stressing to make that point.

And unfortunately I fear we have to rethink refusing to be vaccinated not having any material consequences too. Keep it a choice. Do not impose. But there have to be consequences from saying no in order to change enough minds.
 
Hospital data continues to be good news which is a relief to see.

79 admissions in all England today and is now heading for 3 weeks in the 70s/80s/90s.

England patients down 62 today - more than the 56 fall a week ago. Ventilators down 4 too.

And the North West fell in patient numbers again by six to just 152.

So no sign yet after more than a week of rising numbers that the Bolton cases are creating more very sick people needing hospital treatment - as the NW hospital numbers are behaving exactly like all the other regions not showing any impact of the big uptick in cases. As the age of those catching it will likely continue to infer unles cases really spiral out of control.

We would have to see that before anything like triple figure deaths are on the horizon.
 
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splinter said:
21st of June won't happen
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We skip from 20 June to 22 June? ;)

It's over five weeks to go. As Govt have stated, they do not know yet. They will, quite rightly, monitor what happens with the data. It's better to be safe than sorry. The last thing we ant is another bloody lockdown.

Lifting restriction on 17 May will make a big difference to a lot of peoples lives. Thus, if the removal of social distancing restrictions on 21 June is pushed back a short period, it will be easier to deal with for many. Not all, of course. If it meant
 
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splinter said:
Bolton highest rates in the country and rising..
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It has been highest rates for days. Yet again the media report last weeks news. This is why they missed the problem at the start for days before they should have done. Waiting for final five day old data already established by the daily data.
 
Healdplace said:
It has been highest rates for days. Yet again the media report last weeks news. This is why they missed the problem at the start for days before they should have done. Waiting for final five day old data already established by the daily data.
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Bonkers..got to be a worry for the rest of GM
 
Tonster said:
Agreed. But most deaths certainly weren’t were they? Hence my comment regarding ‘triple digit deaths’. And by end June many more under 50’s will be jabbed won’t they too? Not suggesting we shouldn’t be careful but fucking fed up of hearing statements as mentioned (not you I know). The path to normality was vaccines. We are nearly there, we have to get back to normality for the sake of everyones sanity as soon as safely possible.
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I agree.
 
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