Seasoncard - 2021/22

[blue b4 the moon]

In the middle of SS3....think it's a freeze from what I think I paid last time.

 

[RegMuffin]

Think you've missed part of the objections against it.

A lot of people don't use Google Pay / Apple Pay or even have a smartphone
A card doesn't need charging and it's a quick swipe under the reader and you're in
The trial of mobile ticketing was (apparently) a disaster at Everton with 10k, yet we're going to risk 40k plus in August (I'll guarantee there will be thousands missing the first kick off)

and most importantly if I can't make a game and I want my mate who sits next to me the opportunity to bring his missus I can just give him my card. I can't do that with mobile ticketing.

This is a solution for a problem that doesn't exist.

Mobile tickets and photo ID are just methods to maximise income (profit) and also to excerpt control. Stops tickets being passed around and pushes people to the ticket exchange at premium pricing. The amnesty was part of that - lauded as great news for some but taken with mobile tickets and ID being required it's a way of making money, not because supporters want it nor have asked for it.

 

[Man-chester copperpot]

Yes thats correct.

Bloody hell, my mum, dad & uncle were hoping to possibly move to the North Stand level 1.
I really hope the people buying the seats take full advantage and go every game possible - or at least sell their tickets when they can’t attend.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Think you've missed part of the objections against it.

A lot of people don't use Google Pay / Apple Pay or even have a smartphone
A card doesn't need charging and it's a quick swipe under the reader and you're in
The trial of mobile ticketing was (apparently) a disaster at Everton with 10k, yet we're going to risk 40k plus in August (I'll guarantee there will be thousands missing the first kick off)

and most importantly if I can't make a game and I want my mate who sits next to me the opportunity to bring his missus I can just give him my card. I can't do that with mobile ticketing.

This is a solution for a problem that doesn't exist.

16% of the U.K. population don’t have a smart phone. 10m people.

3.2m over 80. (I know one esteemed member of BM is of this age, but the vast majority of match goers are younger than this)
12m under 16s.

Therefore the vast majority of 16-80 year olds have a smart phone.

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

Some proper dinosaurs on here :)

imagine being triggered by mobile ticketing.

bring back the books so we can all tear the slips out again. Keep your stubs for any finals!

Yeah, it’s an age thing. Whatever makes you feel smug.

In other news the whole world doesn’t revolve around you.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

You do realise that just because the e-ticket system wasn’t perfect at the Everton game, it doesn’t mean that it’ll be shit *forever* right?

A trial is exactly that. They’ll figure out what didn’t work properly and fix it.

Fucking hell…some proper luddites on here.

Mobile wallets are great, it’s a convenient way to keep everything in one place without having to bring 10 different cards and bits of paper around. I don’t even take my wallet out with me anywhere these days.

 

[Northerndave]

16% of the U.K. population don’t have a smart phone. 10m people.

3.2m over 80. (I know one esteemed member of BM is of this age, but the vast majority of match goers are younger than this)
12m under 16s.

Therefore the vast majority of 16-80 year olds have a smart phone.

Yes, I'd actually say that over 90% of adults have a smartphone, but what percentage of users with Smartphones use Google or Apple pay?

And still stops me passing my ticket on to a mate at no cost for the 1-2 games a year I can't make.

 

[Corky]

You do realise that just because the e-ticket system wasn’t perfect at the Everton game, it doesn’t mean that it’ll be shit *forever* right?

A trial is exactly that. They’ll figure out what didn’t work properly and fix it.

Fucking hell…some proper luddites on here.

Mobile wallets are great, it’s a convenient way to keep everything in one place without having to bring 10 different cards and bits of paper around. I don’t even take my wallet out with me anywhere these days.

There is an extra cost, buy a smart phone, get internet to the smart phone.

Liverpool are still doing plastic cards as an option for £5 more, cheaper than buying a new phone and keeping it charged up.

The cancer risk of smart phones isn't known yet, but there are male fertility problems. Also when you are out and about and don't want to be contacted, like at the football, why would you want to take a phone to the game?

 

[ballinio]

Where do I cancel my season ticket ?

 

[Fred_Quimby]

Re-my last about passing on my ticket when not around. A solution could be a cheap smart phone to just have my ticket on and pass that on? A pain in the arse but a solution if the phone is cheap enough. Anyone got any suggestions? Must be mega cheap but enough to do them single job of having my ticket on it.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Yes, I'd actually say that over 90% of adults have a smartphone, but what percentage of users with Smartphones use Google or Apple pay?

And still stops me passing my ticket on to a mate at no cost for the 1-2 games a year I can't make.

You don’t need to use Apple/Google play, just learn how the wallet app works.

If you think you’ll need to pass your ticket on, I’d buy a cheap phone that you only use as your “ticket” so that you can pass it to whoever you want to use your ticket.

 

[Eccles Blue]

I have a Smartphone but it didn’t work for the Everton game. I am not a believer in using my phone for anything to do with money. I have an iPhone, an iPad and a laptop but anything money wise I only use my laptop. Maybe silly but I hear/read too much about fraud etc and with my laptop, unless I have a burglary, no one can get near it. :-)
So I personally would prefer a season card as in the past. JMOO. :-)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I have a Smartphone but it didn’t work for the Everton game. I am not a believer in using my phone for anything to do with money. I have an iPhone, an iPad and a laptop but anything money wise I only use my laptop. Maybe silly but I hear/read too much about fraud etc and with my laptop, unless I have a burglary, no one can get near it. :-)
So I personally would prefer a season card as in the past. JMOO. :-)

An e-ticket doesn’t have anything to do with money. You’ll pay for your season ticket in the same way as you have done.

The smartphone physically replaces the seasoncard we previously had. How they work is the same. They both send out a signal to the turnstyle scanner. (Well, they should do should they work!)

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

There is an extra cost, buy a smart phone, get internet to the smart phone.

Liverpool are still doing plastic cards as an option for £5 more, cheaper than buying a new phone and keeping it charged up.

The cancer risk of smart phones isn't known yet, but there are male fertility problems. Also when you are out and about and don't want to be contacted, like at the football, why would you want to take a phone to the game?

Cancer risk? What fucking universe are you living in?

 

[Eccles Blue]

Just an addition to my previous post. Whatever the club decides I will go along with because nothing will stop me going back to the Stadium for the games. :-)

 

[Northerndave]

You don’t need to use Apple/Google play, just learn how the wallet app works.

If you think you’ll need to pass your ticket on, I’d buy a cheap phone that you only use as your “ticket” so that you can pass it to whoever you want to use your ticket.

So now I need 2 phones just for the odd time I can't make a game?

Alternatively a credit card sized solution that can be transported easily, doesnt need charging, works well and is better for the environment would be great.... Wonder if someone could invent that?

Ps I know how digital wallets work and I also use Google pay, bit I also stand behind people in Starbucks taking 3-4 times as long to pay for an item using pay systems than those using a debit card. Scale that up on a matchday and see the chaos !

 

[Snape]

An e-ticket doesn’t have anything to do with money. You’ll pay for your season ticket in the same way as you have done.

The smartphone physically replaces the seasoncard we previously had. How they work is the same. They both send out a signal to the turnstyle scanner. (Well, they should do should they work!)

It will act like a digital key does on your phone in an hotel. I presume they will run it via the city app?

 

[Eccles Blue]

@Alan Harper's Tash then why did I have to load my debit card on to the Apple Wallet to get the Everton ticket?
Which I immediately deleted when the club said I would get a print at home ticket.

 

[paulchapo]

You do realise that just because the e-ticket system wasn’t perfect at the Everton game, it doesn’t mean that it’ll be shit *forever* right?

A trial is exactly that. They’ll figure out what didn’t work properly and fix it.

Fucking hell…some proper luddites on here.

Mobile wallets are great, it’s a convenient way to keep everything in one place without having to bring 10 different cards and bits of paper around. I don’t even take my wallet out with me anywhere these days.

It's not because I have to take my phone with me whether I want to or not. Now that might be okay in cold weather where I can pop it into a coat pocket. In fairness that is 95% of the time. What happens on the rare hot day though? Early and end of the season? You then have to carry it in your hand all the time risking losing/dropping it or having it stolen. How hard is it to send out a seasoncard? The mobile bollocks can be used for other ticket sales

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

I have a Smartphone but it didn’t work for the Everton game. I am not a believer in using my phone for anything to do with money. I have an iPhone, an iPad and a laptop but anything money wise I only use my laptop. Maybe silly but I hear/read too much about fraud etc and with my laptop, unless I have a burglary, no one can get near it. :-)
So I personally would prefer a season card as in the past. JMOO. :-)

Apple Pay / Google Pay is more secure than typing in credit card details on your laptop by orders of magnitude.

Also, the system they’re proposing has nothing to do with payments, it’ll in all likelihood be a barcode you scan in that contains little more than your supporter number. Much like a mobile train ticket is.