Whose comparing, it’s about different strategies for different circumstances but there are some common denominators about what works and what doesn’t. Everyone knows we locked down too late in the first wave. Everyone knows we should have shut down travel with India weeks earlier. Hiding behind the demographics of New Zealand doesn’t change those facts.
Me and the wife were talking this morning. We’re seriously considering not testing again moving forward unless we have to for travel approval. Our kids well being (mental included) are our main concern and priority. Not playing ball on something that makes no sense, after we’ve played ball for too long already.
Many rich people have been able to travel in and out of Australasia, a bit like it’s been here but on a smaller scale.
I don't blame you. If the rules made some sort of sense there would be better compliance. As it is, half the rules make sense and half seem to be randomly thought up which means that people are more likely to ignore the lot which is the worst of all worlds.
Mine are a bit older than yours I think mate so it's all good. They know they'll get what's promised, even if it's in 3 years time!!! Just feel so sorry for the younger ones. I just hope we don't end up with a generation of none hugging, emotionless introverts down the line.
The national track and trace had been pretty poor from the off. That said, if 2 people get different instructions from the app then it can be, for example, one person just being sat closer to the person with the virus for longer. You might have been a few feet closer and with in range or nipped to the loo. Who knows
Yes I did that last year. Promised this year we’d do festivals and go abroad. Both festivals cancelled and little chance of getting abroad. But we have been out for my daughters belated birthday meal, and last friday went out as a family celebrating Christmas. Just the December cancelled ice skating still missing!!
Just delete the app - it's a load of bollocks.
Pretty sure the government think the Delta wave will be past its peak by then.
My brother has been pinged 3 times in the last 4 months, it seems to happen every single time he flies up here from down south where he goes to uni (his uni is 10 mins from Heathrow). It's never happened to him going back down there.
That might be true, but it seems that they know that double jabbed people aren’t contributing significantly to its growth whereas allowing unfettered mixing with no masks undoubtedly will. Seems they’ve got it arse about tit.
She really is a knob ha ha, yep NZ closed forever
Nevertheless, NZ will have to open it's borders to more than rich people at some point or are they saying to those there who have family overseas (and there are quite a few) 'you can never see them again, ever'. Now, they can delay that for a time to try and get their population fully vaccinated but eventually, particularly if they see the rest of the world 'living with it' (and it will never be completely eradicated, remember, that's only happened in the case of one disease in the history of mankind - smallpox) then the pressure will come to open the borders. At that point it is inevitable that therew ill be cases and there will be deaths, however low level and 'acceptable'. She is not serving her people well if she does not have that conversation with them.
We have had this same argument about New Zealand v the UK over and over in this thread and keep repeating the exact same points. That is because they are in effect true.
Think you’re missing the point Tim. Different strategies for different countries based on the way the pandemic has hit those countries? Yes, of course. But what I took from that article was that she was telling our PM that he shouldn’t be telling the people of the UK that we have to learn to live with Covid. Easy for her to say that when the NZ public haven’t been subjected to Covid and the protracted lockdowns and restrictions that we have - I will add that those were necessary of course - but now with our vaccine rollout we’re in nowhere near as bad a position as we were and living with Covid is exactly what we have to do in future. She’d be singing an entirely different tune if Delta gets a significant foothold in NZ and rips through their population to the extent that they have to lock down for months, but then come out the other side in a much better place as a result of a successful vaccination programme
