Italy v England | Euro 2020 Final

[I'm With Stupid]

There is zero evidence that Southgate "forced" players in taking a penalty. He confirmed he knew the first 5 before full time based on the penalty taking in training and when penalties arrived he probably asked that 5 if they were up for it and all 5 would of said yes. So no need to change the line up

Yeah I don't get this. People seem to be acting like "I decided" means he told players, rather than they actually discussed it together before the match and he made a decision on who (of those who willing) he thought would be most likely to score. Obviously a wrong decision in the end, and I think there's legitimate criticism to be made about bringing people on just to take a penalty. All you're doing there is increasing the pressure on them, and it's not surprising that the ones who missed were the ones he brought on.

 

[ancoats]

He'll be the manager for the next world cup(providing we get there!!).

However he's got 18 months to sort his tactics out as he can't keep playing that cautious and defensive

southgate has to step down because he is not up to the job ? forget the world cup next year.
we was playing at home in the euro's and he's playing route one park the bus ? come on best chance of winning euros and having foden grealish sancho bellingham bursting to play

southgate is a loser and lacks the knowledge at the top level. mancini knew what to do and after a dodgy start got it spot on and was the better team and the best team in the euro's

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Has Mount been subbed yet or is he still wandering around aimlessly?

Should have subbed him at half time.

 

[ysmsa]

Nonsense IMO........but we'll never know because he wasn't brave enough.He should have led by example,like Kane.

Why have a bleeding Manager then if Players are calling the shots.

Southgate hasn't trusted Sancho or Rashford during the tournament, 1 appearance and cameo sub appearances between them, yet he trusts them to take the most important kicks since 1966!

Just like leaving Mount on to take free kicks but did sod all else yet he cant even take a penalty either.

Manager bottled it and some players bottled it too.

Imagine being Pickford today, saves 2 kicks against the Italians but his team mates miss 3! Feel for him not the lads that missed.
Rashford's kick was awful, he did not know what to do from his initial starting position, run up, pause and miss. That does not show confidence to me!

Never mind, all over now.

 

[hilts]

I mean let's be honest, we can all do that. Here's Mancini's list:

Saudi Arabia
USA
Finland x 2
Liechtenstein x 2
Greece x 2
Bosnia x 3
Armenia x 2
Netherlands
Poland
Northern Ireland
Bulgaria
Lithuania
San Marino
Turkey
Czech Republic
Switzerland
Wales
Austria
Belgium
Spain
England

I feel like people have never watched international football before. Most of the teams anyone beats are going to be shit. But obviously Mancini only won against the worst manager in history on penalties, so he can't be all that either.

So after a poor time for Italy, he goes on a very long unbeaten run, beats a team higher ranked and better than them and wins a tournament. And you don’t see the difference to waistcoat?

Come on then let’s compare him to waiscoat

England’s longest winning run
England’s longest unbeaten run
Higher ranked team beaten in a tournament
Silverware collected

When you’re ready:-)

 

[Bantamgaz]

Sadly the yes man will be here for ages to come the loons who have decided that football is cool to watch since England have done well are out in support for him ...... us in proper football lane know that had roles been reversed and Mancini would have been our manager we would be champions now

The 2nd half is the kind of stuff seen at lower league level sit back and hope they don’t break through ...... fair enough I can see it at certain levels but with that bench honestly no excuses at all

btw why the hell was that poor kid on the last pen ....... surly you put your best penalty takers on the first and last pens ........if the kid ain’t took a penalty in a pressure game then why put him on the last one ????

honestly I’m foaming but sadly it’s the English way embrace failure yet again

 

[kippaxwarrior]

southgate has to step down because he is not up to the job ? forget the world cup next year.
we was playing at home in the euro's and he's playing route one park the bus ? come on best chance of winning euros and having foden grealish sancho bellingham bursting to play

southgate is a loser and lacks the knowledge at the top level. mancini knew what to do and after a dodgy start got it spot on and was the better team and the best team in the euro's

He's just said he wants to stay on. The fa won't sack him. Semi and a final in the last 2 tournaments. Serious questions need to be asked about his tactics the the media seem very reluctant to ask them

 

[Mike Cledford]

Typical Little Englanders...fucking entitled twats!

'Entitled' means having a legal right or being permitted to do something. So are you a racist or just ill educated, full of American misuse of the English language picked up from the Internet?

 

[Bluesince88]

Sadly the yes man will be here for ages to come the loons who have decided that football is cool to watch since England have done well are out in support for him ...... us in proper football lane know that had roles been reversed and Mancini would have been our manager we would be champions now

The 2nd half is the kind of stuff seen at lower league level sit back and hope they don’t break through ...... fair enough I can see it at certain levels but with that bench honestly no excuses at all

btw why the hell was that poor kid on the last pen ....... surly you put your best penalty takers on the first and last pens ........if the kid ain’t took a penalty in a pressure game then why put him on the last one ????

honestly I’m foaming but sadly it’s the English way embrace failure yet again

Done it against Denmark, they was knackered and on the ropes. We took the lead and then bang, Grealish off, sit back and invite pressure. Amateur.

 

[Citizen in Pakistan]

Who knew out of all the players Slab head would score the most ferocious plenty, i thought eng were gonna win it when he scored judging by the standard of first 2 penalties

 

[M18CTID]

The point was that Mancini adjusted his tactics at half time. We did nothing to counter Italy's revised tactics that were clearly working. I'm not saying a change would have worked but FFS he should have tried something. To be fair, Pep is regularly guilty of the same thing so he's in good company (CL final a good example).

He is indeed. Also remember Mancini adjusting his tactics in the first half of the FA Cup semi vs United in 2011 when they had us on the rack. The game turned totally on its head and Ferguson didn't come up with a solution to counter it.
I would add that despite him not changing it early enough when they had us on the ropes last night, when it got to ET we got a foothold again and could've gone on to win it in that second period. The match was lost on the lottery of a penalty shoot out (which is typical of England)

 

[Mike Cledford]

Little Englander means people who didn’t want the British Empire to expand and that they just wanted England to be on this island.

He has problems with English. Perhaps the Little Oxford English Dictionary is needed for Liitle Englanders?

 

[hilts]

So who is he alluding to when he says some players were not ready
Ffs Southgate your the one who ain't ready .

Just by listening to him you know he is very defensive inclined, his ratio of talking about what Italy can do and their strengths and the weaknesses in the formations we pick are very telling. It’s sounds like a number of our more exciting players will all be battling it out for the one place in tournaments.

He’s the exact opposite to Pep in that regards. He’s basically Mourinho without the tactical nous just at a time when Mourinho is no longer relevant. The FA do have form for picking yes men who are behind the curve.

 

[Mike Cledford]

Oh okay sorry, wrong phrase... What i mean't was they are small minded, dumb fuck, despicible scum!

Enlighten me. Is 'dumb fuck' some sort of adjective and what does it mean? Someone who is very quiet when having sex?

 

[mosssideblue]

There must be Someone to Blame nowadays in the media, even when the basis for the blame is plain wrong.

It must be an English thing and has gone on for as long as I can remember.

Spend weeks hyping up everything getting the country into a frenzy, and then when it inevitably goes tits up they go for blood

 

[hilts]

Enlighten me. Is 'dumb fuck' some sort of adjective and what does it mean? Someone who is very quiet when having sex?

I think it’s when someone puts their cock in a lady’s ear:-)

 

[MillionMilesAway]

It must be an English thing and has gone on for as long as I can remember.

Spend weeks hyping up everything getting the country into a frenzy, and then when it inevitably goes tits up they go for blood

probably, but it seems to have got worse over the last few years. I doubt it's a coincidence that it fills social media at a time the media outlets/tabloids now have more need to fill and attract Angry Clicks.

 

[hammocity]

'Entitled' means having a legal right or being permitted to do something. So are you a racist or just ill educated, full of American misuse of the English language picked up from the Internet?

Out of order, he's probably calling out racists with that post.

 

[Mike Cledford]

I think it’s when someone puts their cock in a lady’s ear:-)

Women must have big ear holes where you come from unless......;)

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

The better team won the final and Italy have looked the best team throughout the tournament so I don't have any complaints there. Congratulations to Roberto who has transformed Italy. They're worthy champions but we pushed them harder than anyone else. I'm not a fan of Southgate but I'm not going to join any witch hunt because, whatever we say, we've do ne better in this tournament than we've done in any since 1966 and we should remember that amidst all the depression and anger evident this morning. All concerned deserve congratulations for that. The City lads all did exceptionally well and I'll extend that to "the Manchester contingent" in the starting eleven. No criticism of the lads who missed in the penalty shoot out, and the criticism and abuse they've suffered doesn't come from football fans but from politically motivated morons out to spread disharmony, hatred and trouble. They can just **** off and leave the rest of us to remember our best performance for over half a century. So, hard luck lads, really feel for you but thanks.