Italy v England | Euro 2020 Final

What will the result be?


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My original comment was in response to a post about Saka being racially abused on the internet and of a video showing the some English "fans" kicking the shit out of some Italians.

Now i obviously didn't use the correct grammar for some of you, but i think i let my feelings known in my subsequent post.

So how you can accuse of being racist is insulting and out of order and i think it's probably you who's ill educated for you to make an accusation like that!
I did post his reply was out of order, if he's big enough he should apologise to you.
 
Saka's instragram filled with racist bile and this - welcome to England 2021 - everyone still proud?


Probably been said already but people in the comments are saying it English on English, people trying to get in by charging stewards and others trying to stop them. Still out of order kicking people while they are on the floor.
 
A Sky Sports reporter just said some young England Players had a "phenomenal" tournament and included Saka and Sancho amongst others, you can not make it up.
 
Went as expected. A strong, resilient defensive set up can only get you so far. Once you hit the wall you need a manager to be able to tweak and sadly, Southgate hasn't got the courage to try and grab the game by the neck, even though he has the personnel.
We held on for penalties because he saw that as the safest bet as going toe to toe with them was out of his comfort zone.
England have had a good tournament, it would be churlish to say otherwise but however close they come, the reality is they will win nothing with him in charge and some of the best attacking talent the country has produced in a long time will sadly be onlookers from the bench.
The penalties from Sancho and Rashford pissed me off the most, not because they missed as such but the fucking ridiculous look at me run ups beforehand.
A penalty isn't rocket science, there's no great secret as to how they are scored. You take a proper run up with the direction you're going to hit it already stuck in your head then strike it cleanly with pace and height towards a corner.
 
Anyone with a twitter account, report this racist ****.



'Ngubu' is a derogatory term used online to describe black players.

His whole account is full of white supremacy. 17 thousand fucking followers, 1.5k likes on that tweet. What the fuck is wrong with the world?
 
Grealish has said he wanted to take a penalty.

I have never called Sterling a coward,i said he wasn't brave enough......it shouldn't even have been a discussion,it was his job.
Plenty of top players do not take pens in shoot outs.

The exact reason we had Batty taking one all those years ago.

So who do we believe then?

Waistcoat and his pre-selected 5 or Grealish who says after the event he wanted to take one?

You know I want Grealish here, so I have no real issue with him taking one or not taking one.

I just feel some and you included can't wait to pick up another stick to beat Sterling with.

We all know if he has taken one and missed your day would have been fulfilled and the amount of vitriol you could spew would have reached new heights.

It is slightly sad tbh

Also, just to put it out there I don't think he is worth 300k but then I don't think KDB is worth 400k, Messi 1m, and Bale 600k per week either.
 
I feel for the Young black lads getting shit loads of racial abuse.

I think Southgate trying to be "Woke" hung these lads out to dry, I really do.

There was no reason for a 19 year old Kid who had never took a competitive penalty for his Club to be taking that important Penalty.

That should have been a senior player. With Saka going down in the penalty taking order.

Tried to make that lad an English hero.

Instead he has brought the poor Lad a shit load of racist abuse.
 
This. Hearing fully grown adults on the radio saying “I must get more into football”.

No, you must not. Unless you’re Southgate then yes you probably should

80% of the fans out last night could not name a england player
they was just out for the crack and a piss up talk about (jumping on the band wagon) only to fall off hard
 
I feel for the Young black lads getting shit loads of racial abuse.

I think Southgate trying to be "Woke" hung these lads out to dry, I really do.

There was no reason for a 19 year old Kid who had never took a competitive penalty for his Club to be taking that important Penalty.

That should have been a senior player. With Saka going down in the penalty taking order.

Tried to make that lad an English hero.

Instead he has brought the poor Lad a shit load of racist abuse.
Kane would have been better going 4 or 5
 
I feel for the Young black lads getting shit loads of racial abuse.

I think Southgate trying to be "Woke" hung these lads out to dry, I really do.

There was no reason for a 19 year old Kid who had never took a competitive penalty for his Club to be taking that important Penalty.

That should have been a senior player. With Saka going down in the penalty taking order.

Tried to make that lad an English hero.

Instead he has brought the poor Lad a shit load of racist abuse.
It doesn't matter much what Southgate did, Racists will always exist and if for instance the three black lads had scored and England had won their racist ire would just be on the next target. Shame on Social Media, if anyone posted anything like that on here they would be banned pronto.
 
Not had time to read the posts so I'm probably repeating lots of what has been said already BUT it is unfathomable to me that people who work in professional football can watch the second half of that game and think Jordan Henderson was the answer to the problems Italy were giving us.

If you are under pressure and keep giving the ball to your opponent it doesn't matter who you have in front of the defence pointing it is only a matter of time before you concede. You only have to be unlucky once.

You have to have players who can get the ball in midfield and either run with it, pass it on or fall over and get a free kick. Then get your defence out. Don't bring on an extra defensive player who will just pass the ball into touch and give possession straight back.

I'm a football idiot but even I can see that pattern forming (maybe cos i see City kill other teams ramping up the pressure every week).

We've got some amazing attacking talent but only one has performed consistently and in many games we talk about Maguire, Philips and Walker being magnificent (much love to John Stones who i think must play with Maguire's shirt number on his back based on commentary).

When Pep talks about having the balls to play football this is what he's talking about for me.

Having moaned about all that it is exciting to see how England may develop over the next 5 years. Lots of quality around if we have the courage
Courage is the key word. City don’t get anything like the credit we deserve for playing the ballsy, high risk/high reward way we do
 
He's just said he wants to stay on. The fa won't sack him. Semi and a final in the last 2 tournaments. Serious questions need to be asked about his tactics the the media seem very reluctant to ask them

don't really care about england anymore lost all love for them long ago
do feel for the young generation of fans but they will learn the hard way
 
I feel for the Young black lads getting shit loads of racial abuse.

I think Southgate trying to be "Woke" hung these lads out to dry, I really do.

There was no reason for a 19 year old Kid who had never took a competitive penalty for his Club to be taking that important Penalty.

That should have been a senior player. With Saka going down in the penalty taking order.

Tried to make that lad an English hero.

Instead he has brought the poor Lad a shit load of racist abuse.

I get this but would it have been any easier for the lad taking a penalty in sudden death? He was a least on target, but I really did feel for him mind.

I do think having Rashford and Sancho taking penalties when they haven’t really kicked a ball all tournament and had couldn’t have even been warmed up was piss poor judgement.
 
I feel for the Young black lads getting shit loads of racial abuse.

I think Southgate trying to be "Woke" hung these lads out to dry, I really do.

There was no reason for a 19 year old Kid who had never took a competitive penalty for his Club to be taking that important Penalty.

That should have been a senior player. With Saka going down in the penalty taking order.

Tried to make that lad an English hero.

Instead he has brought the poor Lad a shit load of racist abuse.
A baffling decision but if you genuinely believe that it was based on ‘wokeness’, racial politics and culture wars and rather than how they performed in training then I feel a bit sorry for you
 
? crazy

talk of foden taking a little knock in training ?? fuck me KDB played with a broken cheekbone and eye socket and a tear in his ankle ligament
I wonder if he's the one Jose mentioned who told waistcoat he won't take a penalty?
 
80% of the fans out last night could not name a england player
they was just out for the crack and a piss up talk about (jumping on the band wagon) only to fall off hard

Absolutely, the same as all the fan parks and social media. Loads wearing their brand new England tops many for the first time. That's fine the same thing happened in Euro 96 so for attracting more fans to the game it's a good thing. It's tough to hear the absolute claptrap some of them say when interviewed on TV or when they post on social media though.
 

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