Sterling and the hate he gets

oddfellows said:
Like the shoot outs themselves the research is also a lottery if they don't get to a 4th or 5th penalty.
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I have only seen 2 shoot outs without a 4th, Doncaster v City and Liverpool v Pompey when Anderson was playing for the latter in Div 2.

Rarely you get 3-0. 5th is far more likely not to be needed.
 
Corky said:
I have only seen 2 shoot outs without a 4th, Doncaster v City and Liverpool v Pompey when Anderson was playing for the latter in Div 2.

Rarely you get 3-0. 5th is far more likely not to be needed.
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Fair shout i was just quoting the probability in case I got pulled up ;-)
 
I see UEFA’s head of referees has confirmed that the penalty won by Sterling was for the initial contact (the knee in the back of his knee with no attempt to play the ball) and that the decision was correct.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
…I think the Ref took a beat and decided there was ENOUGH CONTACT for him to blow.

From there, I was surprised VAR didn’t send him to the monitor. However, they usually don’t if VAR SEES WHAT THE REF TELLS THEM HE SAW!
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OFFICIAL: From UEFA Referee Chief at Euros

“The defender didn’t play the ball, there was a clear action of the defender, a clear movement of the right leg.

“Danny saw the contact, the clear contact of the right leg against the right leg of Sterling. This is what the referee saw on the field of play. We can discuss about the intensity of the contact, but this is what the referee saw, and this is what the referee told the VAR immediately after.

“The VAR checked the incident and the VAR confirmed the referee decision because the images confirmed what the referee saw on the field of play.”
 
It just shows you how ridiculous and over reliant football has got when it comes to analytics

We’re talking about a professional football scoring a shot from 12 yards with the keeper not allowed off his line until the ball is struck.

It won’t be long until teams hire penalty coaches as part of the back room staff, I mean we already have throw in coaches!
 
Lancet Fluke said:
There is research behind it. The later in the shoot out the penalty is, the more pressure there is on the taker. The better a penalty taker is, the better they tend to cope with that pressure. Doesn't always work out and there are a few counter arguments but ultimately there are solid reasons to do it.
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A counter argument being… never lose a shoot out with your best penalty taker not getting the chance to take his…. See Portugal & Ronaldo
 
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StockportJB76 said:
Southgate based his numbers on practice penalties in non pressure environment!

If he used the correct analysis even if people may doubt this strategy, he probably would have come to a totally different conclusion

For example;

Does experience of taking penalties in true match situations help in high pressure shoot outs?

Does age and number of games help in shootouts?

Other factors;

Rashford put under high stress immediately before shootout. Playing position never played, defending last moments under intense Italy pressure.

2 very inexperienced players taking last two crucial penalties! We missed last two in 1990 World Cup after good start showing these are probably most crucial decisions!

I also seem to vaguely remember that rushed penalties often result in misses! Sako penalty taken very quickly. Sadly think in those key moments even before he struck the ball, his inexperience was a factor!

Shows to me that organisations, even with a lot of data, analysis and money behind them make basic mistakes in high pressure situations! You don't have to be Einstein to work out his choice of penalty takers was flawed!
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Part of the coaching should be drilling the players to take their time, gather their composure as best they can, and follow the same routine every time - even in training - so they have the best chance possible of reproducing their best penalty under pressure.

Looking at how players take them, from all nations, it is clear that doesn’t happen. Sometimes you get the very clear impression players are getting the ordeal over with as soon as possible, and they always tend to miss.

This is a bizarre lapse in professionalism in such a professional sport, especially for England when we know all too well how critical penalty shootouts are.
 
Chris B said:
Part of the coaching should be drilling the players to take their time, gather their composure as best they can, and follow the same routine every time - even in training - so they have the best chance possible of reproducing their best penalty under pressure.

Looking at how players take them, from all nations, it is clear that doesn’t happen. Sometimes you get the very clear impression players are getting the ordeal over with as soon as possible, and they always tend to miss.

This is a bizarre lapse in professionalism in such a professional sport, especially for England when we know all too well how critical penalty shootouts are.
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Well Rashford and Sancho didnt appear to want to get their penalties over asap. The way they took theirs stunk of me,me,me.
 
mac said:
Well Rashford and Sancho didnt appear to want to get their penalties over asap. The way they took theirs stunk of me,me,me.
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Sancho’s was actually worse than Rashford’s for me. A lazy half arsed underhit back pass. Perfect for the keeper. At least Rashford confused the keeper, sending him the wrong way, shame he managed to confuse himself though. Just glad Raheem was responsible for missing one.
 
mac said:
Well Rashford and Sancho didnt appear to want to get their penalties over asap. The way they took theirs stunk of me,me,me.
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The BBC commentator bigged all three up in different ways as they prepared their kicks, praising the two younger ones for their confidence.
 
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