CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

Norbiton said:
I thought it was some procedural issue that we lost on rather than anything substantive? The legal system has such lengthy backlogs now it’ll probably be years before anything emerges.
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I honestly can't see a situation where this can come back. It is a legal process which dates back to alleged offences in 2013 which we have already been punished for. To push for a further sanction almost a decade after an alleged breach of FFP which has already been comprehensively thrown out by an independent legal body would undermine the credibility of the PL.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I honestly can't see a situation where this can come back. It is a legal process which dates back to alleged offences in 2013 which we have already been punished for. To push for a further sanction almost a decade after an alleged breach of FFP which has already been comprehensively thrown out by an independent legal body would undermine the credibility of the PL.
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The punishment (the fine for not co-operating) was from UEFA though, the PL have their own rules and they're not dependant on the UEFA case.
 
Maybe the Premier League could look at law breaking with hundreds of supporters breaking into a stadium, causing actual bodily harm to policemen, forcing a PL postponement or the first time ever and acting as a precedent for the disgusting scenes that took place at the Euro final.
I find it incredible that like the obvious corruption and breaking of the law that is going on in Govt and beyond this seems to just go unchallenged.
As well as Man Ure meeting with the Clown in Number 10 prior to the super league announcement.
This sucking up to the red shirts by the media and the PL and FA in order to keep their noses in the trough is disgusting. WHY does it continue?
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I honestly can't see a situation where this can come back. It is a legal process which dates back to alleged offences in 2013 which we have already been punished for. To push for a further sanction almost a decade after an alleged breach of FFP which has already been comprehensively thrown out by an independent legal body would undermine the credibility of the PL.
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Credibility of the PL? That’s a new angle
 
its about our price of chips at the etihad on match days
7 chips in a cup. fucking 7 chips in a cup ?
 
Stiff Little Wingers said:
Maybe the Premier League could look at law breaking with hundreds of supporters breaking into a stadium, causing actual bodily harm to policemen, forcing a PL postponement or the first time ever and acting as a precedent for the disgusting scenes that took place at the Euro final.
I find it incredible that like the obvious corruption and breaking of the law that is going on in Govt and beyond this seems to just go unchallenged.
As well as Man Ure meeting with the Clown in Number 10 prior to the super league announcement.
This sucking up to the red shirts by the media and the PL and FA in order to keep their noses in the trough is disgusting. WHY does it continue?
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2nd time btw, they left a 'bomb' in the stadia and had that match postponed as well.

But how the fuck they have got away with rioting and injuring a policeman into the bargain is anybody guess?

It is a disgrace all around and Ratface backing them on Sky should have cost the little **** his cushy job but then they are happy to have the other main guy spitting in young girls faces.

Wankers.
 
What I remember is how extraordinarily quick the journos were to brush it off as a win solely on a technicality.


Talk about taking an L...
 
KS55 said:
It strikes me, looking back, that the arguments advanced on Bluemoon were far superior to anything in the press. A feather in the cap of Stephan, Colin and others. I enjoyed that time immensely and (check my posts) I never had the slightest doubts that we would be cleared.
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The whole thread educated me. I trusted their opinions which as you say empowered one should it become shall we say a topic for discussion with others.
The problem was that others had been fed just one side by the media including TV and press.
I recall speaking with my brother (another CTID) the day before the Cas verdict, I found he was totally unaware that City could be anything but guilty brought about by his daily diet of Sky. BT and BBC sport.
He, an ardent City fan, ridiculed my belief in our resident experts that true justice would prevail.
Needless to say he rang me here in Spain with his apologies.
Once again thanks to all who contributed to my strong belief against an almost unanimous wave of vindictive lying propaganda from those who claim to bring the news yet distorted it.
 
bluealf said:
2nd time btw, they left a 'bomb' in the stadia and had that match postponed as well.

But how the fuck they have got away with rioting and injuring a policeman into the bargain is anybody guess?

It is a disgrace all around and Ratface backing them on Sky should have cost the little **** his cushy job but then they are happy to have the other main guy spitting in young girls faces.

Wankers.
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Couldn’t agree more but what is depressing me a lot is how to balance loving watching us play but hating almost everything else about the game, especially the media. Everything you describe is a case in point
 
Centurions said:
The punishment (the fine for not co-operating) was from UEFA though, the PL have their own rules and they're not dependant on the UEFA case.
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They do have their own rules but if they're going to try and nail us for the exact same things that UEFA did then it more than likely ends up back at CAS with another City win and I'm not sure the PL would really want that. Now it could be that they have something different on us - in which case we perhaps should be concerned - but I'm not sure that's the case.

I'll also add that I think City carry a bit more clout in our own domestic league than we do within UEFA so if any clubs want to act like cunts in trying to lobby the PL in getting some trumped up charges thrown at us then they're going to be very disappointed and it could end up backfiring spectacularly on them. There's also the recent ESL shenanigans to consider as well, and while City were involved we weren't the ringleaders but those clubs that were know they have to behave themselves in future.
 
M18CTID said:
They do have their own rules but if they're going to try and nail us for the exact same things that UEFA did then it more than likely ends up back at CAS with another City win and I'm not sure the PL would really want that. Now it could be that they have something different on us - in which case we perhaps should be concerned - but I'm not sure that's the case.

I'll also add that I think City carry a bit more clout in our own domestic league than we do within UEFA so if any clubs want to act like cunts in trying to lobby the PL in getting some trumped up charges thrown at us then they're going to be very disappointed and it could end up backfiring spectacularly on them. There's also the recent ESL shenanigans to consider as well, and while City were involved we weren't the ringleaders but those clubs that were know they have to behave themselves in future.
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Agreed with all of that. I am a bit puzzled as to why this is going to The High Court(?) though, even if it's only some procedural beef. I thought that CAS handle everything like that? It's even more puzzling that if it is more or less the same as the UEFA case why the PL haven't just stopped proceedings. I wonder if we'll ever know.
 
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Centurions said:
Agreed with all of that. I am a bit puzzled as to why this is going to The High Court(?) though even if it's only some procedural beef. I thought that CAS handle everything like that? It's even more puzzling that if it is more or less the same as the UEFA case why the PL haven't just stopped proceedings. I wonder if we'll ever know.
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Yeah, it's all a bit odd. Could it be that there is no real appetite to pursue this on the PL's behalf in light of the CAS verdict but they've got to go through the motions? I too don't know why the High Court are involved but maybe that's how it works domestically? I'm sure someone can shed some light on that
 
M18CTID said:
Yeah, it's all a bit odd. Could it be that there is no real appetite to pursue this on the PL's behalf in light of the CAS verdict but they've got to go through the motions? I too don't know why the High Court are involved but maybe that's how it works domestically? I'm sure someone can shed some light on that
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I may be wrong but my understanding is that most sporting bodies and the members agree to use CAS as the ultimate arbiter in a dispute. CAS is not a court it's more like an independent body and its powers are not legal powers like a court has. You can ignore a CAS ruling but typically the rules of a sporting body state that CAS must be followed.

Why is this in high court and not CAS - i dont know. I would have thought that the PL would have a rule in place that states all such issues go to CAS.
 
Gaudion M said:
I may be wrong but my understanding is that most sporting bodies and the members agree to use CAS as the ultimate arbiter in a dispute. CAS is not a court it's more like an independent body and its powers are not legal powers like a court has. You can ignore a CAS ruling but typically the rules of a sporting body state that CAS must be followed.

Why is this in high court and not CAS - i dont know. I would have thought that the PL would have a rule in place that states all such issues go to CAS.
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Is David Fucking Gill (DFG) a new addition to the high court judges panel maybe?

Edit, my mistake, it’s DCG
 
M18CTID said:
Yeah, it's all a bit odd. Could it be that there is no real appetite to pursue this on the PL's behalf in light of the CAS verdict but they've got to go through the motions? I too don't know why the High Court are involved but maybe that's how it works domestically? I'm sure someone can shed some light on that
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@Chris in London captured lots of detail in this excellent post on the original thread and maybe answers your question:

forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

City v PL | Legal Dispute/Appeal

Reply to this from Mike keegan Yeah but what was the reply!!?
forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk
 
Gaudion M said:
I may be wrong but my understanding is that most sporting bodies and the members agree to use CAS as the ultimate arbiter in a dispute. CAS is not a court it's more like an independent body and its powers are not legal powers like a court has. You can ignore a CAS ruling but typically the rules of a sporting body state that CAS must be followed.

Why is this in high court and not CAS - i dont know. I would have thought that the PL would have a rule in place that states all such issues go to CAS.
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Presumably it may mean that it isn't a sporting regulations matter, but a domestic issue? Something on e.g. tax wouldn't go to CAS.
 
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