City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

I sincerely hope that once this PL investigation is finished it’ll be the end of this shite once and for all & as at CAS, our financial transactions will put it to bed.
 
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all the moaning about the money and FFP to pep is so wrong
why is debt not put before spending ? why did nobody question OGS spending £130 million this summer when his club is in debt to the tune of £500million ? i think only manchester city in england can be judged on spending

lets start the run down and why pep can buy £100million players
3 premier league titles. 4 league cups. 1 fa cup. champions league football and final for a start
BUT most of all debt free and the best run club in football and valued at about £2.5billion

also where do the muppets think the money goes to ? ask villa why they slapped that figure on him
villa are a midtable team at best with jack grealish ? the lad wanted a challenge and try and win something
nothing wrong in that is there ? its just because manchester city spent the money

go and and OGS why he spend £100million on sancho and £50million on Varane when £500million in debt in this testing times with covid-19 outbreak
A very good point amongst your other good points.

The selling Clubs that overprice their players and inflate the market do not get called out.
The blame always lies with the Club which is effectively forced to pay over the odds for a player they want because of the shitty selling Clubs.
 
A very good point amongst your other good points.

The selling Clubs that overprice their players and inflate the market do not get called out.
The blame always lies with the Club which is effectively forced to pay over the odds for a player they want because of the shitty selling Clubs.
Yeah! They MADE us do it!!!

SMH
 
all the moaning about the money and FFP to pep is so wrong
why is debt not put before spending ? why did nobody question OGS spending £130 million this summer when his club is in debt to the tune of £500million ? i think only manchester city in england can be judged on spending

lets start the run down and why pep can buy £100million players
3 premier league titles. 4 league cups. 1 fa cup. champions league football and final for a start
BUT most of all debt free and the best run club in football and valued at about £2.5billion

also where do the muppets think the money goes to ? ask villa why they slapped that figure on him
villa are a midtable team at best with jack grealish ? the lad wanted a challenge and try and win something
nothing wrong in that is there ? its just because manchester city spent the money

go and and OGS why he spend £100million on sancho and £50million on Varane when £500million in debt in this testing times with covid-19 outbreak
It’s about CASH FLOW, not debt or no debt.

If your annual revenues allow you to service your annual expenses, then you have nothing to fear from FFP. By design, it was bullshit, because it allowed a club like Barca to load themselves up on debt until their revenues couldn’t service the debt expense in addition to its transfers & wages…and it all came crumbling down, Barca were forced to wait to sign players COMING ON A FREE, and current players took pay cuts to allow them to sign!
 
Not sure what you mean but Villa overpriced JG and Spuds definitely thought they could screw 150m out of us!

They placed a price on JG in his contract, we decided he was worth it. Just like Kane, and you at the Bentley dealership, we could have walked away from the price being asked.

In the end, my personal mantra when it comes to paying for almost anything is:

“I have money, you have stuff.
You want my money more than I need your stuff!”

In this instance, City made it plain they wanted “the stuff,” and the dynamic dramatically shifted.

An ask is just an ask. It cannot force a bid.
 
It’s about CASH FLOW, not debt or no debt.

If your annual revenues allow you to service your annual expenses, then you have nothing to fear from FFP. By design, it was bullshit, because it allowed a club like Barca to load themselves up on debt until their revenues couldn’t service the debt expense in addition to its transfers & wages…and it all came crumbling down, Barca were forced to wait to sign players COMING ON A FREE, and current players took pay cuts to allow them to sign!

debt should be taken into account..
because just hiding it in hope one day it will go away only adds up to barcelona
how can a fan owned club be in such a mess that they have to give players away they signed 2 seasons ago for £140million and wages of £850.000 a week ? it will not hide the debt or will reduce the debt ??

what are the chances that somebody buys a football for peanuts £200million and turns it into £2.5billion
how can that be so wrong for football ? it should be the bench mark on how to run a football club under FFP
 
debt should be taken into account..
because just hiding it in hope one day it will go away only adds up to barcelona
how can a fan owned club be in such a mess that they have to give players away they signed 2 seasons ago for £140million and wages of £850.000 a week ? it will not hide the debt or will reduce the debt ??

what are the chances that somebody buys a football for peanuts £200million and turns it into £2.5billion
how can that be so wrong for football ? it should be the bench mark on how to run a football club under FFP
COVID that is how and the very strict spending limits in the Santander League.

There are different types of debt so it gets complicated, and for example City needed a mortgage to move stadiums, and now how opened up a sizable borrowing facility. When looking at gearing ratios compared to normal businesses, the football clubs in most debt aren't normally in trouble, unless there is a massive drop in revenue.
 
COVID that is how and the very strict spending limits in the Santander League.

There are different types of debt so it gets complicated, and for example City needed a mortgage to move stadiums, and now how opened up a sizable borrowing facility. When looking at gearing ratios compared to normal businesses, the football clubs in most debt aren't normally in trouble, unless there is a massive drop in revenue.

forget the covid-19 crap ? clubs like barcelona united and others of the so called elite clubs was in a mess long before covid-19 hit. the premier league match going fans revenue is so small its like 5% so am not falling for that

the truth is debt at them clubs will never be sorted and will grow to a point when its somebody else's fault or covid-19 hits again. its simple uefa and the elite board members should not be allowed to setup FFP when their clubs are in a right mess and in debt ? if your a uefa member and on the board like barcelona.. your place should be taken off you because you failed in what it set out to be

who are they to judge and look at manchester city books knowing we can never take a look at theirs
 
forget the covid-19 crap ? clubs like barcelona united and others of the so called elite clubs was in a mess long before covid-19 hit. the premier league match going fans revenue is so small its like 5% so am not falling for that

the truth is debt at them clubs will never be sorted and will grow to a point when its somebody else's fault or covid-19 hits again. its simple uefa and the elite board members should not be allowed to setup FFP when their clubs are in a right mess and in debt ? if your a uefa member and on the board like barcelona.. your place should be taken off you because you failed in what it set out to be

who are they to judge and look at manchester city books knowing we can never take a look at theirs
M United are not in any financial trouble, they are a money printing machine and continue to be so.

Barcelona's spending limit dropped by 42% in one season or 274m Euros, the whole Santander League dropped by 22%, due to reduced revenues driven by to COVID. Hardly 5%, and not something that could be foreseen. City would be knackered under the same rules, as they are far more strict than anything Uefa came up with.
 
M United are not in any financial trouble, they are a money printing machine and continue to be so.

Barcelona's spending limit dropped by 42% in one season or 274m Euros, the whole Santander League dropped by 22%, due to reduced revenues driven by to COVID. Hardly 5%, and not something that could be foreseen. City would be knackered under the same rules, as they are far more strict than anything Uefa came up with.

i was talking about the premier league not a shit spanish league ? united are in a mess and add the new signings to losses made. if £600milion in debt not financial trouble then you must be on the uefa board matey

at what point does that debt gets repaid or stop growing ? covid-19 fell nicely for the elite teams and united
it covers their backs to a point. but also the value of the club is cut by £600million if they sell up
 

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