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No but if what is said to have been agreed is believed his agent and him thought they had a gentleman's agreement

Obviously worth fuck all but it shows Levy up for what he is and blocking his move to appease other clubs as alluded to here also could confirm that

Levy is a ****

But wouldnt kane have known levy gentleman's agreement are worth a light. Didnt modric say he also had a gentleman agreement with levy and levy didnt honor that.

Sorry going abit of topic !
 
The other teams don't want to strengthen us in any way possible. It seems there is quite a lot of paranoia around us becoming a Bayern/PSG/Juventus type club dominating the league, if we win this year it'll be 4/5 so I can't say it's entirely unreasonable.

It's the same kind of mentality that made Burnley part of the hateful 8 clubs who wanted us punished before the CAS verdict. What do Burnley gain? Nothing.

I just assumed they done it as it 'could have' opened up an extra European place and that 'could have' been them at the time.

I don't doubt that there's a lot of hate for us amongst the top clubs, and there's a major clique involving them. I just have my doubts it would or even could go as far as demanding Aston Villa or Tottenham don't sell to us. Money talks and any of those owners wouldn't be keen on not getting 100m or 120m if it was just to satisfy other clubs.
 
Because as well as being a key player on the UEFA Exec Committee Al Khelaifi (PSG boss) is also boss of Bein Sports who are one of UEFA's biggest sponsors. He also has the support of Bayern Munich who rely heavily on sponsorship from Qatar Airlines (direct state funding?) and Audi (which is part-owned by the Qatar state). Don't forget that Bayern CEO Karl-Heinz Rummenigge was fined in Germany for smuggling two Rolex watches (worth £100,000) back from a business trip to Qatar where he was given the watches as "a gift" in return for his support for the corrupt Qatar World Cup bid. That's just the tip of the iceberg. PSG are inside the tent.
Reading that it seems like the smarmy twat is running uefa ,how they get away with it with the money that league generates is a joke
 
I just assumed they done it as it 'could have' opened up an extra European place and that 'could have' been them at the time.

I don't doubt that there's a lot of hate for us amongst the top clubs, and there's a major clique involving them. I just have my doubts it would or even could go as far as demanding Aston Villa or Tottenham don't sell to us. Money talks and any of those owners wouldn't be keen on not getting 100m or 120m if it was just to satisfy other clubs.
I just assumed they done it as it 'could have' opened up an extra European place and that 'could have' been them at the time.

I don't doubt that there's a lot of hate for us amongst the top clubs, and there's a major clique involving them. I just have my doubts it would or even could go as far as demanding Aston Villa or Tottenham don't sell to us. Money talks and any of those owners wouldn't be keen on not getting 100m or 120m if it was just to satisfy other clubs.
 
Haven't done enough digging to suggest anything else, however Americans bought Burnley and leveraged on the club, then said they saw great potential for growth within the town. Now I come from that area and there is zero potential for growth however they could be assisted by their American friends in the PL to the tune of keeping them in there in return for that 1vote. Fuck all to do with thinking Burnley could have had a place in Europe.
 
City will rue their involvement in the Super League. Had we stayed out we would have missed the backlash and Soriano could have leveraged himself into key positions. Instead we snuck in last and left first. We annoyed every European side not involved in the Super League and also messed up the plans of the other 11 sides. So we get hated by both sides. Plus ca change
 
Yeah! They MADE us do it!!!

SMH
SMH... That's a strawman if I ever saw one.

I think his point was the selling clubs and greedy agents are equally to blame for the problem of rising prices and yet get away with it Scot free. I'm not with you on this "you can just walk away and have nothing" argument either, nobody buying any players wouldn't be good for the transfer market or the clubs who need to strengthen to grow/stay competitive either.

Personally I think in any form of business, if you start opportunistically raising the prices just because:

You know the customer needs/has their heart set on this commodity and can't go elsewhere,
Or
You know that customer has more money than regular customers,

Then you and your business practices are what are "immoral"(and need looking at in order to solve the problem). Anyone who says otherwise, is probably a business owner, who also likes to have the shirt off everyone's back too and tells themself whatever they need to, to keep doing it.

I've seen similar logic used to justify those who buy up tickets or items in short supply, to force others to pay their gouged prices for something they really want/need. Nobody has to pay but lets not pretend what they are doing isn't wrong.
 
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City will rue their involvement in the Super League. Had we stayed out we would have missed the backlash and Soriano could have leveraged himself into key positions. Instead we snuck in last and left first. We annoyed every European side not involved in the Super League and also messed up the plans of the other 11 sides. So we get hated by both sides. Plus ca change
would liverpool,united and arsenal let soriano represent pl
 
This makes absolutely no sense.

The Qatar World cup was sorted for Qatar in December 2010. That's when the world cup was 100% going to Qatar. Signed. Sealed. No going back.

That's before they bought PSG. Before all their "extravagance" in the transfer market.

The fact is, despite not happening yet, the World Cup was merely their entrance into football and PSG gives them a great financial asset, huge soft power in France and exceptional visibility.

They are going to keep investing and growing it just like our owners will with City.
You‘re probably right and I agree but the mistake is within how you read my post. What I am meaning is that we won’t see the likes of the money spent on Mbappe and Neymar and, as you said, will come more in line with how we do business once they’ve gone all out to win the CL.
 
Stuff the hateful 8.If a player has any ambition and City come in for him and the fee meets the so called release clause.Then the player and his agent will make the move happen.If the other clubs are all going to club together they are very much mistaken.
We have taken over and they did not see it coming.Funny how they didnt try and stop The dippers in 70s and 80s and the scum in the 90s who were just as dominant as we are now.
 
Let’s face it, all our enemies sporting business rivals don’t want us to achieve anything and have a common goal of keeping us away from the trough. Every one of them has their own reason but with the collective has more power which also allows more attacks. This also has the effect on other clubs when it comes to owners investing as they know what to expect, and many new owners will either by put off or just not allowed to get into the sport by nefarious means.

The G14 want us squashed, they hate us but I don’t give a fuck as that hatred will turn them bitter, just like the Rag hoards across the way.
 
The other teams don't want to strengthen us in any way possible. It seems there is quite a lot of paranoia around us becoming a Bayern/PSG/Juventus type club dominating the league, if we win this year it'll be 4/5 so I can't say it's entirely unreasonable.

It's the same kind of mentality that made Burnley part of the hateful 8 clubs who wanted us punished before the CAS verdict. What do Burnley gain? Nothing.
Its also the reason we “struggle” to get top dollar for our sales. No one wants to fill our pockets for players we’re willing to let go
 
The other teams don't want to strengthen us in any way possible. It seems there is quite a lot of paranoia around us becoming a Bayern/PSG/Juventus type club dominating the league, if we win this year it'll be 4/5 so I can't say it's entirely unreasonable.

It's the same kind of mentality that made Burnley part of the hateful 8 clubs who wanted us punished before the CAS verdict. What do Burnley gain? Nothing.
However 4 out of 5 for PSG bayern Juventus is perfectly acceptable, to psg, bayern and Juventus
 
However 4 out of 5 for PSG bayern Juventus is perfectly acceptable, to psg, bayern and Juventus

Yeah obviously, and if City won the next 10 in a row, you wouldn't find Ferran or Khaldoon complaining.

But if Milan, Inter, Roma had a chance to nip it in the bud, they'd try that as well.
 
I just assumed they done it as it 'could have' opened up an extra European place and that 'could have' been them at the time.

I don't doubt that there's a lot of hate for us amongst the top clubs, and there's a major clique involving them. I just have my doubts it would or even could go as far as demanding Aston Villa or Tottenham don't sell to us. Money talks and any of those owners wouldn't be keen on not getting 100m or 120m if it was just to satisfy other clubs.
This and only this.
 
Which part of THAT^^^^ SMH DOESN’T scream exasperation or a lack of understanding of what on earth the other poster is seeing that I’m not?!

And why the need for dissection if a throwaway comment? Say something worthwhile or move on already!

Btw, did you just learn the term “straw man,” because you sure like to throw it around!

If you want to be in the football BUSINESS, then you need to abide by the rules of the business. It’s literally that simple.

The rules change and you can either move with the times (pay inflated fees and wages) or get left behind trying to develop second tier talent to aid in your survival.

This is where the whole notion of “buying clubs” and “selling clubs” comes from. Some clubs generate enough income to be able to buy the players the selling clubs develop. A prime example of a selling club would be Southampton, which is known for its development of talent, yet they survive BY doing that! They sell one player, the money helps keep them afloat, and they bring through another player or go out and purchase an undervalued player from elsewhere and try to develop him.

City would be a buying club. They have brought very little talent through their own system in the last decade, so they have spent big money from their income generation to acquire top talent in order to stand s claim at the top table of European football and to always be in the mix for the PL title.

Some people constantly whine about “the business” of football because they either don’t understand it or can’t stand it. Either way, it is simplistic and naive to drone on about agents, fees, wages, etc. They’re part and parcel of a burgeoning global business.

When the bubble bursts, everyone will have to react to that market, too. Some will feel more pain than others, but people will still figure out a way to make money, or get paid, just as they always have done.

Lastly, what on earth makes you think I need to “save face” with you?!
City are also a development club, CFA paid over half ofthe Grealish fee, it's a football factory.
 
City are also a development club, CFA paid over half ofthe Grealish fee, it's a football factory.
Indeed. All part of “The Project.”
My apologies for not noting that. However, in the main, I believe we sell young talent on, often with buy back clauses, while reaping the money to assist in buying the top, top talent that helps make the first team better.
 
Its also the reason we “struggle” to get top dollar for our sales. No one wants to fill our pockets for players we’re willing to let go
The thing is that you have a huge pool of players brought up in the best academy, as sales and loans all add up to signing players like Grealish. We don't need to sell Phil Foden but if we did, what price.... Leave all this in the hands of the people doing it, they know what there doing.
 

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