Etihad Atmosphere - 2021/22

Not sure how to post pics but ignore the 38,000 attendance figure that seems to be doing the rounds. It was more like 45-46k in all honesty. There were probably only around 30-32k in the stadium at kick-off as thousands were still outside trying to get in and fans were still getting to their seats 15-20 minutes in. Once everyone was in, the much maligned North Stand was full from my vantage point in the South Stand. The only significant empties were obviously the away end (fair fucks to the Leipzig fans who did travel as their official club trip cost 1199 Euros!), CB3 (the last section to go on sale), and some hospitality areas. As a comparison to my guesstimate of 45-46k, we only got 40k v Lyon 3 years ago for the opening group game and that was with a much bigger away following.
The atmosphere wasn’t THAT bad. Nothing to massively write home about but it has been worse at CL games. As well as 114/115/116, 110/111 were on good form too but there were also chants starting from elsewhere in the ground.
I’ve noticed that early leavers tend to be more of an issue at league games than CL games so it was a little surprising to see so many leave early last night.
 
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I’d have guessed 45k but yep, it was ‘full’ everywhere. No chance it was 38k even with the 7 Leipzig fans

The Daily United main headline has it at 37,000. They Rag c*nts have taken an extra 1500 off the made up attendance. Yet in their report above, they have the attendance at 45,000. And there you have it?
 
Terrific thread on Twitter from a Chelsea fan of all people. Explains that many so-called elite clubs don’t always sell out CL group games either, even touches on United forcing all ST holders to buy CL and FAC tickets which in turn makes it easier for them to sell out, and recognises the issue that many have had with mobile ticketing:

 
Fucking hell I’ve got an old work acquaintance on my timeline now having digs at City’s attendance.

He’s a lovely bloke but quite a nerdy type with very little interest in football.

This ‘empty seats’ narrative has become a very widespread thing.

That's what my problem is too. The narrative spreads very fast in the day of social media. Everywhere from Instagram to twitter to facebook to reddit is calling us on our attendance. Even false news or pictures taken at half time or before the matches get 10k likes though they are total fake. Pep need not ignite this narrative but he did!

We can mind our own business but as a Global club as we are now ( Even if anyone disagrees to it) , there is a need to control narratives and maintain media plans. PSG don't give a fuck. Called out Tebas when he was being a dick.
Here we have our own manager feeding the frenzy.
 
Pep can go anytime . He thinks he's doing us a favour by managing us. 40000 for a midweek game is respectable enough when you consider the group stages of this competition are for the most part a non event. Maybe if he didnt fuck up our chances of winning it when it comes to the business end every year he could talk.
Fuck him and his "History Clubs" and blowing smoke up the arses of the rags and Dippers.
The media throw enough shit at the club without him giving them another stick to beat us with.
We were here before Pep and we will be here long after him.
 
As expected, his comments have caused a media frenzy. It was completely unavoidable as soon as the words left his mouth and it qualifies as a monumental f**k up on his part.

I said last night i don't buy into this idea that full capacity attendances and incessant shouting from the stands defines the merits of a fan base, or fan core: try telling an Oldham supporter they're not as passionate as a premier league "history boys" fan because they attend a three quarters empty stadium each week. And I will add, I couldn't care less what rivals think of our support; we don't need praise from the swathes of glory-hunters and tourists to validate our support as "proper".

But our manager shouldn't be adding fuel to the fire. His comments last night were unwarranted. They would have been received a little more favorably had we just played out a dour 1-1 draw or worse yet, lost the game. Yet we smashed in six against a very good European outfit. Forget the sad jibes about flat atmosphere; the mood was good when the final whistle blew because we'd just played more fluid, vibrant football. Bar a few defensive lapses (which given the Ake news earlier are now entirely understandable) we were back to our best.

I don't necessarily think he needs to apologize, but he does need to clarify his words.
 
As expected, his comments have caused a media frenzy. It was completely unavoidable as soon as the words left his mouth and it qualifies as a monumental f**k up on his part.

I said last night i don't buy into this idea that full capacity attendances and incessant shouting from the stands defines the merits of a fan base, or fan core: try telling an Oldham supporter they're not as passionate as a premier league "history boys" fan because they attend a three quarters empty stadium each week. And I will add, I couldn't care less what rivals think of our support; we don't need praise from the swathes of glory-hunters and tourists to validate our support as "proper".

But our manager shouldn't be adding fuel to the fire. His comments last night were unwarranted. They would have been received a little more favorably had we just played out a dour 1-1 draw or worse yet, lost the game. Yet we smashed in six against a very good European outfit. Forget the sad jibes about flat atmosphere; the mood was good when the final whistle blew because we'd just played more fluid, vibrant football. Bar a few defensive lapses (which given the Ake news earlier are now entirely understandable) we were back to our best.

I don't necessarily think he needs to apologize, but he does need to clarify his words.
Could be the best thing Pep’s ever done.

He could have said nothing and we could just carry on coasting along as an apathetic fanbase… but now we might actually shape ourselves!
 
Could be the best thing Pep’s ever done.

He could have said nothing and we could just carry on coasting along as an apathetic fanbase… but now we might actually shape ourselves!

He said it before and it hasn't worked.

He should stick to what he does best, coaching players and winning trophies, bar the odd tinkering with the team f*ck up.(cough!)
 
I was brought up in the old Kippax in the late 1960's, getting on the football specials from Belle Vue, at the age of 13,14 going to games by myself, as a kid you lived and died for it and a few times it was close, it is now a totally different experience, it has become a family thing it is safe to go to most away games displaying your colours, once Maine Rd died, it was never going to be the same, The Etihad is a a very similar place to The Emirates and not Highbury if you know what I mean.
 
The man is the best football manager in the world for a reason, he plans everything, every single thing.

He brought the subject into a post match interview, he clearly planned it, for what reason, who knows!

But I do know, he has caused this club to have even more abuse aimed at it from one and all, you would have though we had lost last night in a empty , silent stadium.
Fair comment. Pep always something for a reason. He is very measured. He preceded his request for people to turn up at 3pm Saturday for the Southampton match by saying: "We have scored 16 goals in our last three home matches." I believe he was making a point. A bit like when he said we "couldn't afford" a striker. As a fanbase we are probably oversensitive to criticism but I think a lot of us are just totally sick of the relentless negative narrative about our club in the media.
 
As good as we are his style of football isn’t exactly one that inspires a great atmosphere either. Bayern (all German clubs) is different as they go through an orchestrated songbook every game
Yes the German fans must be bouncing at every game as Bayern head for ten titles in a row?
 
Last night it looked empty when the players came out and it took a while to fill up, but I thought the crowd was good numbers 15 minutes into the game, very few gaps. But as usual loads went home early so by the final whistle it looked empty again. I enjoyed it though!
 
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Yes I know but it's wrong. It has to be. I was there and I've been going for 40 years and I know what a crowd is. I couldn't see EL3 from my seat but I could see the rest of the ground and the only significant empty seats were in the away end and that's 3k, and in the top tier of CB3 which looked 3/4 full. 48k would be my estimate.
I agree 38000 is bollocks.
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What the fuck is Pep and anyone else going on about????
Dunno, the red noses in work were perplexed when they saw my photos too
 

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