1880 Group

[Blue Mist]

I'm one of the founding members and main organisers of 1894.

Regarding your first paragraph @pace89 and @Gary James have both given good responses which are why we chose that particular year for a name. We chose the year of Manchester City's formation as opposed to something different (such as Union Bears at Rangers, Green Brigade at Celtic, Holmesdale Fanatics at Crystal Palace) as we wanted to focus specifically on the history of our club and to improve the atmosphere in a traditional British way. It was also a bit of a 'f*ck you' to people who thought we had no history as a club.

We don't act on behalf of all city fans. The official supporters club and City Matters fill those positions. We do try and organise City fans though. For example fundraising for displays, doing the displays on a match day, organising bus welcomings, organising protests etc. If you're interested in anything specific please ask.

You must know @oakiecokie then, he was also around in 1894 when the club was founded.

 

[oakiecokie]

You must know @oakiecokie then, he was also around in 1894 when the club was founded.

Cheeky twunt. ;)

 

[Gkelly1973]

Plus, of course, there’s no evidence that 1880 was a definitive foundation date. It’s currently the earliest known date of a match but we may have played prior to that. If we used MUFC’s example we’d be selecting a date from the 1860s when the first reported cricket game occurred. There’s no evidence of Newton Heath playing football before 1880 and they base their 1878 on other sports.

Thanks, that's cleared it up for me.

 

[Shaggy]

Beswick People’s Front if you don’t mind.

Splitters

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

People's Front of Beswick.

Popular Front of Beswick

 

[LongsightM13]

Popular Front of Beswick

“Who threw that?!!!”

 

[lancs blue]

Thanks, that's cleared it up for me.

You were @gkelly1972 when you started the thread, have you a different ID for every year? ;-)

 

[pendlebury blue]

You were @gkelly1972 when you started the thread, have you a different ID for every year? ;-)

He’s a very naughty boy

 

[Andy Conway]

Manchester City Football Club were formed in 1894 and there were no forerunner clubs to City.

St Marks did become Gorton who did become Ardwick, but Ardwick did not become Manchester City. It was just a coincidence that there were people involved with Gorton and Ardwick who founded (or played for) City and that Ardwick disbanded very soon after City formed.

But we were not those clubs before we were City.

That's strange. Because there's a giant photo of the St Marks team on our stadium right above my turnstile.

 

[John Wayne]

Manchester City Football Club were formed in 1894 and there were no forerunner clubs to City.

St Marks did become Gorton who did become Ardwick, but Ardwick did not become Manchester City. It was just a coincidence that there were people involved with Gorton and Ardwick who founded (or played for) City and that Ardwick disbanded very soon after City formed.

But we were not those clubs before we were City.

This sums it up well. I don't consider Ardwick or St. Mark's anything to do with City. They're completely separate entities. I do think it is interesting to trace the likes of Lawrence Furniss and Walter Chew back to St. Mark's, but to claim anything prior to 1894 as part of our history is tenuous at best.