The winter of discontent

metalblue said:
Define discontent?

We can’t have a turkey for Christmas
Some fresh food shortages mean we have to not waste so much stuff
Some fuel shortages at specific locations - but if folk are sensible then there is enough for everyone.
Rising fuel costs
Inflation running around 4%
Wage inflation starting to increase
1 million job vacancies.

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Not exactly screaming ‘sunlit uplands‘ is it?
 
RobMCFC said:
It'll all end when somebody in power (or coming into power) realises that we are better off back in the EU and makes it happen.
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Even if that began on Monday we won't get the same offer - we burned our bridges and these idiots have pissed too many in the EU off - full FoM and joining the Euro will be the type of thing we will have to face up to.
 
It was a bitterly cold and prolonged winter if I remember correctly. It was also one punctuated by periods when there was no electricity and no heating, and we huddled around flickering candles. No government would survive such a repeat.
 
metalblue said:
Define discontent?

We can’t have a turkey for Christmas
Some fresh food shortages mean we have to not waste so much stuff
Some fuel shortages at specific locations - but if folk are sensible then there is enough for everyone.
Rising fuel costs
Inflation running around 4%
Wage inflation starting to increase
1 million job vacancies.

Versus the original one

Inflation and dwindling growth
Uncontrolled wage inflation
Widespread strikes
Bodies unburied
Rubbish uncollected
No gritters or snowploughs out so large parts of the country couldn’t leave their houses during the worst of the weather. Leaving whole communities cut off.
Short working weeks for those who could get to work.
Fuel and food shortages due to lorry strikes - hospital patients having to go without food
Unemployment went up around 100%
The then Labour prime minister in the Caribbean whilst this was all going on.
Aye the party of the worker is Labour

The 70s was really a clash of the changing of the guard. So whilst 2021 is going to be a challenge - and a really hard challenge for some - it’s nowhere near comparable. I nearly chocked on my cornflakes when that clown on QT said “Winter of discontent”, although he was full of all the sound bites, mean, nasty, cruel …eat sleep rant repeat, he came across like a bit of a fucking idiot.
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The big difference is a lot of this could have been avoided had we not had Cameron not decided he could sort his party''s issues out with a public vote. Not really a time for saying I told you so but we are only at the tip of the iceberg in terms of the shit to come in terms of Brexit.
 
RobMCFC said:
It'll all end when somebody in power (or coming into power) realises that we are better off back in the EU and makes it happen.
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Didn't the Lib-Dems offer that at the last election but hardly any bugger voted for them (including ardent remainers).

If either of the major parties push for it, it could happen but it's going to be years most likely. Would probably mean losing the deal we had before too (though I'm fine with that).
 
Mike D said:
The big difference is a lot of this could have been avoided had we not had Cameron not decided he could sort his party''s issues out with a public vote.
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Or if Labour had committed a bit more strongly to the remain campaign.
 
Society, infrastructure, supply lines are more resilient nowadays. I dont believe we will have a winter of discontent, this year anyway.

The poor will be hit hard though, thats the mindset of this particular govn and they have the excuses to rip the support from under their feet, supported by a mostly right leaning news media.
 
west didsblue said:
Was never going to happen with Corbyn's attitude to the EU.
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I know. Shame though really. I think the remain campaign would have won with a bit more Labour backing. Not being in the UK, I'm a bit out of touch with the current situation. Is Labour under Starmer more pro-EU? Are they likely to include rejoining in their manifesto?
 
Gabriel said:
It was a bitterly cold and prolonged winter if I remember correctly. It was also one punctuated by periods when there was no electricity and no heating, and we huddled around flickering candles. No government would survive such a repeat.
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Got to be honest don't ever remember the electricity or gas going off was serving my apprenticeship at the time and we worked right through it.
The country was heavily unionised back then, not a chance anything like this could happen now.
The only thing it archived was 11 years of Mrs Thatcher.
 
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