The idiocy (and selfishness) of panic buying

Filled up next to work this morning with diesel at Tesco(Horwich). No queue no rationing.
 
Eds said:
Then most western governments must be inept as they are in the same position. The Road Haulage Association has estimated that up to 20,000 HGV drivers from the EU left during the Brexit process, but we have a shortage in this country of circa 100,000 drivers. Poland currently has a shortage of 123,000 lorry drivers, Germany around 60,000, France 40,000, Spain and Italy, 15,000 each, USA 100,000, China 4m.
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They’re in the same position in terms of shortage of numbers, they’re not in terms of the impacts being felt from it though, in part due to other factors in the supply chain caused by brexit.
 
Eds said:
Been widely reported recently via Road Haulage Association, relevant trade press etc. Not my fault the facts don't suit your narrative
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funded by the tories no doubt. Funny isn't it that these figures just turn up. I bet Germany and Poland haven't lost 15,000 drivers just because of Brexit though have they, in fact they've probably gained drivers because of it. Plus those conutries they have no visible effects unlike the UK. If it looks like Brexit, smells like Brexit, tastes like Brexit then it's Brexit causing the issue. Every company has said Brexit is the issue
 
I am buying paracetamol as i use it every day , couldnt get that for love or money during covid panic buying , cant actually stockpile it as there are maximum amounts of it available from one outlet and i am not trawlling the town to get loads of it from lots of places
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Media broadcast a fact and it causes numpties to top up their tanks.

They haven’t scaremongered. They reported a truth.

It shows that people are selfish, scared and don’t believe a word of what is being said by anyone.
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But they didn't report the truth.
They lead with "FUEL CRISIS!" headlines.
Only when you read the full articles did they state that only some BP garages would be affected for around two weeks.
What the political minded press did was to try and blame the government for the lack of drivers due to brexit.
They will use any stick to beat the opposition. They knew what they were doing and went with it anyway.

The simple truth is "some" drivers have returned home. Yet this hasn't stopped Europe having their own driver shortages.
This has been caused mainly by two factors.

1: No exams being done during the lockdowns. Meaning a shortage of new drivers. Drivers die or retire meaning a fresh supply is always needed.
2: As the economy recovers and people go back to work, demand has risen meaning more drivers than normal are required.

The effects of Covid will be long lived, with driver shortages just being one of them. Brexit will not have helped, but as a nation we need to just get on with it and stop relying on other countries to help us out.
 
fulabeer said:
But they didn't report the truth.
They lead with "FUEL CRISIS!" headlines.
Only when you read the full articles did they state that only some BP garages would be affected for around two weeks.
What the political minded press did was to try and blame the government for the lack of drivers due to brexit.
They will use any stick to beat the opposition. They knew what they were doing and went with it anyway.

The simple truth is "some" drivers have returned home. Yet this hasn't stopped Europe having their own driver shortages.
This has been caused mainly by two factors.

1: No exams being done during the lockdowns. Meaning a shortage of new drivers. Drivers die or retire meaning a fresh supply is always needed.
2: As the economy recovers and people go back to work, demand has risen meaning more drivers than normal are required.

The effects of Covid will be long lived, with driver shortages just being one of them. Brexit will not have helped, but as a nation we need to just get on with it and stop relying on other countries to help us out.
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We’re going to have to rely on other countries to help us out for the foreseeable future as we don’t have the infrastructure or skilled people to do the relevant jobs after we chose a services-based economy.

We’ll never be able to grow enough food to sustain ourselves.

How many countries don’t rely on other countries in some form? North Korea, maybe?

It’s folly to suggest we should go down that route.
 
BerkshireBlue said:
funded by the tories no doubt. Funny isn't it that these figures just turn up. I bet Germany and Poland haven't lost 15,000 drivers just because of Brexit though have they, in fact they've probably gained drivers because of it. Plus those conutries they have no visible effects unlike the UK. If it looks like Brexit, smells like Brexit, tastes like Brexit then it's Brexit causing the issue. Every company has said Brexit is the issue
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That's right the trade press are funded by the Tories
 
meltonblue said:
They’re in the same position in terms of shortage of numbers, they’re not in terms of the impacts being felt from it though, in part due to other factors in the supply chain caused by brexit.
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Petrol issue is due to the selfishness of the people, a little like toilet rolls etc last year.
 
So, fuel duty is taxed at around 60% of the pump price in the uk. The price per litre is currently high at over £1.30 per litre of petrol. Have the government come up with a cunning plan to generate tons of money for HMRC quickly by saying there is no fuel shortage, knowing full well that everyone would go out and fill up following the toilet roll fiasco last year??
 
In reality all this will blow over by the end of the week and some dickheads will have spent all day queuing up at the petrol station to pay well over the odds for fuel they didn't even need.

I've got about half a tank left, I'll fill up this time next week probably when I need it, like a normal person.
 
Eds said:
Nothing to do with Brexit. Most of Europe has a shortage of drivers as does the USA and China has a shortfall of 4m drivers. Don't let the truth get in the way though.
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Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit but it's being linked to it left right and centre. It's a worldwide issue of a shortage of drivers, many of whom in Britain and Europe have retired since the start of the pandemic.

There isn't a petrol shortage neither. There's a worldwide gas shortage and British petrol companies have a shortage of petrol but there's plenty of petrol at the other stations, but the media have stirred everyone up into thinking all of these things are linked. Of course, Brexit gets thrown in as well when it has nothing to do with that neither.

It's like at the start of Covid - Australia had a toilet roll shortage because the put a block on Chinese goods which included toilet rolls, then the British press mention this as well as it being mentioned on social media where most of the world are linked ("#toiletpapercrisis"), and every supermarket in Britain had empty toilet roll shelves when we were never going to have a shortage of toilet rolls. Brexit was probably thrown in for good measure there n'all.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit but it's being linked to it left right and centre. It's a worldwide issue of a shortage of drivers, many of whom in Britain and Europe have retired since the start of the pandemic.

There isn't a petrol shortage neither. There's a worldwide gas shortage and British petrol companies have a shortage of petrol but there's plenty of petrol at the other stations, but the media have stirred everyone up into thinking all of these things are linked. Of course, Brexit gets thrown in as well when it has nothing to do with that neither.

It's like at the start of Covid - Australia had a toilet roll shortage because the put a block on Chinese goods which included toilet rolls, then the British press mention this as well as it being mentioned on social media where most of the world are linked ("#toiletpapercrisis"), and every supermarket in Britain had empty toilet roll shelves when we were never going to have a shortage of toilet rolls. Brexit was probably thrown in for good measure there n'all.
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Ironically for us in the north west, the UK's biggest manufacturer of bog roll is in Salford. Or maybe it was Oldham.

Either way it's all made round here.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit but it's being linked to it left right and centre. It's a worldwide issue of a shortage of drivers, many of whom in Britain and Europe have retired since the start of the pandemic.

There isn't a petrol shortage neither. There's a worldwide gas shortage and British petrol companies have a shortage of petrol but there's plenty of petrol at the other stations, but the media have stirred everyone up into thinking all of these things are linked. Of course, Brexit gets thrown in as well when it has nothing to do with that neither.

It's like at the start of Covid - Australia had a toilet roll shortage because the put a block on Chinese goods which included toilet rolls, then the British press mention this as well as it being mentioned on social media where most of the world are linked ("#toiletpapercrisis"), and every supermarket in Britain had empty toilet roll shelves when we were never going to have a shortage of toilet rolls. Brexit was probably thrown in for good measure there n'all.
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15,000 HGV drivers have left the country due to Brexit. Of course it's the major issue
 
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