Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BlueAnorak]

Source? Doesn't match PHE numbers.

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Apologies 30,000 a year is a bad flu year.

One year on: Three myths about COVID-19 that the data proved wrong

Three charts measuring 'years of life lost' that disprove three ‘myths’ that were prevalent at the start of the pandemic.

www.health.org.uk

Even so the current rate of Covid is quivalent to a moderately bad flu year, half of which occur Jan-Mar

 

[BlueAnorak]

Looks like New Zealand have overtaken us in proportion jabbed at least once. Too many anti-vax nutters and can’t be arsed people around in this country.

And they kill their Grandparents without bothering about it. It really makes me want to puke.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

the current rate of Covid is quivalent to a moderately bad flu year, half if which occur Jan-Mar

"Equivalent to" doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

But kudos for acknowledging the historical stats.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Whilst there are many reasons why cases may be lower elsewhere one is usually that the UK FINDS more cases than others will even have the capacity to look for.

For most developed countries, deaths aren't out of line with cases vs UK. It's not primarily down to testing.

 

[johnnytapia]

But we were quick off the mark last December/ January with the initial roll out - we seem to have been a lot slower with the booster roll out.

Booster roll out has had nothing like the press and governmental push the original rollout had. People knew exactly when they’d be eligible for their first and second jabs; it was widely advertised; the booster programme seems to have disappeared off the public radar. Can’t remember last briefing from Government, Whitty etc. Mind you, that would involve a bit of ministerial forward planning...

 

[west didsblue]

Apologies 30,000 a year is a bad flu year.

One year on: Three myths about COVID-19 that the data proved wrong

Three charts measuring 'years of life lost' that disprove three ‘myths’ that were prevalent at the start of the pandemic.

www.health.org.uk

Even so the current rate of Covid is quivalent to a moderately bad flu year, half if which occur Jan-Mar

30,000 is a terrible flu year, rarely if ever seen since HK flu epidemic of 1968-70,

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

For most developed countries, deaths aren't out of line with cases vs UK. It's not primarily down to testing.

That would imply we’ve got some magic treatments then, as our 7 day rolling CFR is currently 0.35% and has been since May, which is less than half that of Germany and France, a quarter of Italy‘s, a fifth of Spain and comparable to Denmark.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

And they kill their Grandparents without bothering about it. It really makes me want to puke.

Almost 2 million over 50’s haven’t had one either, so I’d imagine they’re not killing their grandparents..

 

[roubaixtuesday]

That would imply we’ve got some magic treatments then, as our 7 day rolling CFR is currently 0.35% and has been since May, which is less than half that of Germany and France, a quarter of Italy‘s, a fifth of Spain and comparable to Denmark.

Sure, but their deaths are lower by another factor again. So not *primarily* testing - their actual rates are clearly lower ( plus our age range is skewed lower because of our exceptionally lower vaccination rate in children).

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Looks like New Zealand have overtaken us in proportion jabbed at least once. Too many anti-vax nutters and can’t be arsed people around in this country.

First jabs are around the same percentage - 85 to 86% - for over 12s. Two thirds of Kiwis have had both jabs and the percentage should be similar to the UKs by the time they start to open up internationally (very slowly) next month.

Cases in New Zealand are increasing (again slowly) as the messaging becomes less black and white, from a focus on eliminating cases to opening up as safely as possible, now that a clear majority of over 12s are fully vaccinated.