Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[WARBABY]

Good Player Matt Grey, best header of the ball in Scotland but not at City

 

[MCFCTrick]

I was being specific about the area adjacent to the Leeds arena, which is clear in the aerial photographs.

It takes 15 minutes to walk to New Islington and Ancoats. Mary D’s is across the road from the Etihad. ;-)

Over 32 bars and restaurants inside the Coop Live Arena will remain open after the concerts and events. There’s no need to go back into town or to leave the Arena.

32 bars and restaurants. Captive audience and high prices go hand in hand in such places. Food and drink quality can be hit and miss too. I am thinking of the O2 Dome in London as a prime example.

 

[Northerndave]

I was being specific about the area adjacent to the Leeds arena, which is clear in the aerial photographs.

It takes 15 minutes to walk to New Islington and Ancoats. Mary D’s is across the road from the Etihad. ;-)

Over 32 bars and restaurants inside the Coop Live Arena will remain open after the concerts and events. There’s no need to go back into town or to leave the Arena.

15 min walk? It takes 32 minutes to walk from the City Store to the Travelodge on Great Ancoats Street (see Google maps) and that's taking the dimly lit walking route by the side of the Met and canal. Try doing that late night after a few drinks and see the welcome your get from the Spice heads.

I wouldn't even walk that route on a matchday, 30 mins after final whistle as it's a muggers paradise through a dodgy part of town.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

32 bars and restaurants. Captive audience and high prices go hand in hand in such places. Food and drink quality can be hit and miss too. I am thinking of the O2 Dome in London as a prime example.

I am sure that our new indoor arena will be fantastic in many ways. Yes we can be pretty sure of high prices for food and drink.

Maybe we could take a lesson or 2 from the Leeds arena where a new, big Wetherspoons had opened a minute away.

 

[MCFCTrick]

I am sure that our new indoor arena will be fantastic in many ways. Yes we can be pretty sure of high prices for food and drink.

Maybe we could take a lesson or 2 from the Leeds arena where a new, big Wetherspoons had opened a minute away.

Have mentioned elsewhere, that my missus ex company, Greedy King tried to do a huge newbuild pub and restaurant near the stadium, but Manchester council basically refused permission. At the time she heard Wetherspoon had failed with a similar project.

 

[jrb]

Originally posted by Toastrack on SSC-MCR today.

From the looks of it Mary D's survives? The rumour was it was being sold or had been sold and was part of the Grey Mare Lane Estate redevelopment. Link to the MCC-GML-PDF via the link below.

Grey Mare Lane | Strategic Framework

Architect: Buttress Developer: One Manchester https://democracy.manchester.gov.uk/documents/s30119/Appendix%202%20-%20Masterplan%20Oct%2021.pdf

www.skyscrapercity.com

 

[gouldybob]

Originally posted by Toastrack on SSC-MCR today.

From the looks of it Mary D's survives? The rumour was it was being sold or had been sold and was part of the Grey Mare Lane Estate redevelopment. Link to the MCC-GML-PDF via the link below.

View attachment 29603

Grey Mare Lane | Strategic Framework

Architect: Buttress Developer: One Manchester https://democracy.manchester.gov.uk/documents/s30119/Appendix%202%20-%20Masterplan%20Oct%2021.pdf

www.skyscrapercity.com

A bit more blurb about the GML estate

One Manchester unveils £70m vision for Grey Mare Lane Estate - Place North West

The housing provider has produced a masterplan for the redevelopment of the Beswick neighbourhood, proposing the demolition of out-of-date housing stock and the creation of 290 new houses and apartments.

www.placenorthwest.co.uk

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Have mentioned elsewhere, that my missus ex company, Greedy King tried to do a huge newbuild pub and restaurant near the stadium, but Manchester council basically refused permission. At the time she heard Wetherspoon had failed with a similar project.

It seems absurd that the council would reject applications. The area is crying out for decent pubs and eating places. Not everyone wants beer in a cardboard cup.

 

[BufordUSABlue]

It seems absurd that the council would reject applications. The area is crying out for decent pubs and eating places. Not everyone wants beer in a cardboard cup.

I heard, albeit many moons ago now, that if you knock a pub down, you have to build another one? Apparently it goes back to the old coaching house days and the need for weary travelers to be able to rest!
Here endeth todays history lesson :-)

 

[frothy]

4 screen grabs from the drone video. Click on the link to see the drone video

Stuart Prosser - Construction Director at BAM Construct UK - Linkedin

Co-op Live drone imagery to capture the excellent performance from our supply chain as we get ready to commence the structural steel frame next month

Drone Video.

#eastmanchesterontheworldstage #themostsustainablearenaintheuk #cooplive… | Stuart Prosser | 12 comments

Co-op Live drone imagery to capture the excellent performance from our supply chain as we get ready to commence the structural steel frame next month #Eastmanchesterontheworldstage #themostsustainablearenaintheUK #CoOpLive #Oakviewgroup #BAMConstruction | 12 comments on LinkedIn

www.linkedin.com

Went for my booster jab today so had a nosey, what are the two grey structures at either end?

 

[Keeper!]

Went for my booster jab today so had a nosey, what are the two grey structures at either end?

Trophy cabinets

 

[MCFCTrick]

It seems absurd that the council would reject applications. The area is crying out for decent pubs and eating places. Not everyone wants beer in a cardboard cup.

They were apparently their usual bullshitting selves in their reasoning. But the way she and her colleagues read it, they would be happy to have NO pubs around the stadium. They prefer us plebs to be in the ground, and therefore out of their 'problem'. Or in one general area, ie the city centre.

This was ten years or more ago, with the expansion of what we see as the city centre, it seems pointless now. Who knows, maybe they would view applications more favourably nowadays? The arena might make a difference?

 

[Northerndave]

They were apparently their usual bullshitting selves in their reasoning. But the way she and her colleagues read it, they would be happy to have NO pubs around the stadium. They prefer us plebs to be in the ground, and therefore out of their 'problem'. Or in one general area, ie the city centre.

This was ten years or more ago, with the expansion of what we see as the city centre, it seems pointless now. Who knows, maybe they would view applications more favourably nowadays? The arena might make a difference?

I have a feeling that 10, 20 years from now we will hear that MCC's planning dept was found to be in the back pockets of developers. Makes you wonder if the lack of planning approvals for pubs in the area is to placate the Developers and keep the brown envelopes coming *

*Legally, this is a viewpoint, not a statement of fact.

 

[Manchester33]

It seems absurd that the council would reject applications. The area is crying out for decent pubs and eating places. Not everyone wants beer in a cardboard cup.

I don't think the area is crying out for decent pubs right now. There are quite a few pubs that have closed over the past decade. I agree there might be more demand once co-op live opens. Where the Mitchell Arms was would be a perfect place for people walking back into Manchester. It just couldn't sustain itself on 25 events a year, but with 200+ events it would be a great time to re-open.

 

[Manchester33]

I have a feeling that 10, 20 years from now we will hear that MCC's planning dept was found to be in the back pockets of developers. Makes you wonder if the lack of planning approvals for pubs in the area is to placate the Developers and keep the brown envelopes coming *

*Legally, this is a viewpoint, not a statement of fact.

I don't know. I think pubs, on the whole, are outdated. Compare what pubs were like 50 years ago to today. Now think what they'll be like in another 50 years.

The purpose they served historically (mainly community) has been replaced with social media and the entertainment they bring doesn't appeal to younger people who're also more likely to be teetotal than previous generations.

I love going to the pub, but I think the existing stock we have will be more than suitable for the coming decades.

I'm not, but if I was interested in moving closer to the stadium, I'd rather see nice restaurants and cafes than a pub.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I am sure that our new indoor arena will be fantastic in many ways. Yes we can be pretty sure of high prices for food and drink.

Maybe we could take a lesson or 2 from the Leeds arena where a new, big Wetherspoons had opened a minute away.

I remember the wetherspoons rumours.

Honestly only 2/3 pubs I know now open that are near the ground

 

[Gray]

Originally posted by Toastrack on SSC-MCR today.

From the looks of it Mary D's survives? The rumour was it was being sold or had been sold and was part of the Grey Mare Lane Estate redevelopment. Link to the MCC-GML-PDF via the link below.

View attachment 29603

Grey Mare Lane | Strategic Framework

Architect: Buttress Developer: One Manchester https://democracy.manchester.gov.uk/documents/s30119/Appendix%202%20-%20Masterplan%20Oct%2021.pdf

www.skyscrapercity.com

Where is the monorail?

 

[gkmcfc]

Poundland Etihad Campus....

They really need to address their stadium which frankly is a shit hole

 

[gkmcfc]

You'd have thought certain people who have been in charge of City for a decade would have learnt by now. No?

But when you've got the 2 guys at the top, Khaldoon and Soriano, demanding an across the board increase in matchday revenues, the Directors below them, and the Mangers below them, have to do what they're told and find ways of increasing matchday revenues, even if that's unpopular amongst City's fan base.

Brugges was a prime example of the increase in attendance for the match when you get the ticket pricing right.

I accept the club doesn't have to look at lowering ticket prices for games like PSG, United, Liverpool, Chelsea, etc, as City fans will always pay what the have to watch those matches.

I agree the attendance was good - in the north stand we get an awful lot of schools weirdly from Glasgow. Some of them even singing Celtic songs and cheering Brugges - I kid you not!

 

[foggy1974]

It has a hint of brutalism about it. Not the most aesthetically pleasing style but an extremely space effective one.

I really find it quite hard to believe that grown men are whinging about a building "potentially" being matt grey.

Oh the humanity! Not matt grey!! Won't somebody think of the children!

Is Rimmer painting it