United Thread - 2021/22

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CookiesForCream said:
No doubt GPC will still be sticking his oar in.
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And in a nutshell there you have it!! How many other teams do you have the ex-manager hanging around looming in the background like an avenging angel? Has Arsene Wenger done that? Is he haunting their stadium, have any of the new managers there not parked in the space marked Manager?

Apparently someone RangNick and asked if he would be using the Manager's parking space!





(see what I did there....I'm here all week!!!)
 
chaddblue said:
Lol

some OAP who’s best achievement was runner up in the Bundesliga nearly two decades ago

yeah he’s elite lol

if you want this appointment to make you nervous crack on. I’ll keep laughing at them and wait for the next protests as shit results continue to roll in
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Again this is just prideful ignorance.

Knowing who Ralph Rangnick is and how excellent a job he's done, and knowing he'll improve United behind the scenes considerably while stabilising them on the pitch does not make me scared. They're still going to be hamstrung by the owners, and we still have Pep Guardiola.

Do you know who sounds scared? The clown trying to convince everyone that one of the most influential and revered people in German football of the last 20 years is "an OAP" because he's swallowed Sky Sports marketing about the Premier League being the only league in the world.
 
He is a top quality operator, things will change and sadly for the better.

The rags are at their lowest, it's been fun to watch but this is the type of appointment they should have made long ago.
 
I’d love to say United have fucked up but I can’t.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion if you believe otherwise.

My fear is they give him the job permanently as I’ll admit 6 months isn’t long to shine particularly as he specialises in overhauling the club rather than the team.
 
Rangnick is a smart guy, with plenty of experience and tactical acumen. He should be a significant upgrade on Solskjaer - if he‘s given proper chance to be. If not, there won‘t be much immediate improvement.
Shame that he seems to be in line for some kind of adviser role from summer onwards - could do them some good there.
 
domalino said:
When he got hired by Dietmar Hopp at Hoffenheim, he was basically given the job of turning a provincial league 2 side into a Champions League side, and in doing that he not only coached the football team, but built up the entire club, from backroom staff to scouting networks.

So when Mateschitz wanted Red Bull to be a serious entity in football, he asked Rangnick to do the same thing, but being older and feeling he couldn't do both jobs at the same time, he became DoF of both Red Bull clubs and scouted out coaches who could play his style of football.

When Leipzig needed a helping hand he took over as manager for short stints and got them into places where he could step back again.

He's single handedly responsible for Red Bull Leipzig's ascent and Salzburg's success. Put into place their brilliant scouting systems and picked out managers who've all gone on to do really well.

He's doing the same at Lokomotiv now. Or was.

It's a very good appointment for United. He will sort the team out, and then build everything they've been missing behind the scenes.
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Different leagues, miles less competitive than the Premier. I’ve heard Andy Brassel (spelling) making similar points on foreign football and he’s pretty pathetic at translating abilities from Europe to England, can’t imagine this guy being a success, there’s too much shite to sort out.
 
years ago I read that Henry Ford used to put two people in the same job to test them out, with the loser out of the door. Rangnick is a good short term appointment in my eyes. But beyond the interim bit it will only work for him if he has power and control behind any new coach. Back to Henry Ford, you can only hope that the Pisscan and Carrick and any new coach just end up fighting with him If he stays on.
 
lionheart said:
So what has he done at Lokomotiv Moscow? I ask because Wikipedia is silent on the subject.
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Came in when they finished 3rd and won a cup. Sold 10 players, bought 10 players, replaced most of the staff with people he knew. Currently 4th and getting shafted in the Europa





its a decent appointment, but not really a short-term philosophy implement guy, be interesting to see what the consultancy gig leads to.
 
sh249 said:
Rangnick is a smart guy, with plenty of experience and tactical acumen. He should be a significant upgrade on Solskjaer - if he‘s given proper chance to be. If not, there won‘t be much immediate improvement.
Shame that he seems to be in line for some kind of adviser role from summer onwards - could do them some good there.
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What role will the Govan Bully have then ?

Is Rangnick fully up to speed with the rags ethos and principles - doubt it as he is probably more interested in real football ?
 
domalino said:
Again this is just prideful ignorance.

Knowing who Ralph Rangnick is and how excellent a job he's done, and knowing he'll improve United behind the scenes considerably while stabilising them on the pitch does not make me scared. They're still going to be hamstrung by the owners, and we still have Pep Guardiola.

Do you know who sounds scared? The clown trying to convince everyone that one of the most influential and revered people in German football of the last 20 years is "an OAP" because he's swallowed Sky Sports marketing about the Premier League being the only league in the world.
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Never a truer word spoken but you aren’t allowed to say United have done something well for once…we have to say it’s a laughable appointment. He might not have lots of trophies but his record at improving clubs from where he takes over is arguably the best there is.

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domalino said:
Again this is just prideful ignorance.

Knowing who Ralph Rangnick is and how excellent a job he's done, and knowing he'll improve United behind the scenes considerably while stabilising them on the pitch does not make me scared. They're still going to be hamstrung by the owners, and we still have Pep Guardiola.

Do you know who sounds scared? The clown trying to convince everyone that one of the most influential and revered people in German football of the last 20 years is "an OAP" because he's swallowed Sky Sports marketing about the Premier League being the only league in the world.
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Oooh oooh look at me

I’m such an expert on obscure European managers who have read a few text books.. been on some advanced coaching courses.. had a few nice things said about them by proper coaches

but at the end of the day achieved the square root of fuck all and been sent out to pasture in some far flung corner of Europe

pmsl
 
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