Starter for 10…Most?
Really. Got a source for that?
"Assault" rifles do not belong in the hands of civilians. They certainly aren't personal defence weapons.Not insulting anyone.
It’s important that basic terminology, and the actual reasons so many guns are virtually impossible to ban, are understood. Clearly they’re not!
There is the action of the gun and the accessories that change a handgun into the larger firearms that people seem to have greater heartburn over.
Until there are common frames of reference, a discussion of the convoluted laws and technicalities is meaningless.
For instance, what is an assault rifle? Ask 10 people get 11 emotional responses!
Hopefully, we will never have to find out, but I think you’d be on the wrong side of history if push came to shove.Seeing as you’ve never fired it in anger never mind at an individual I wouldn’t be so cocksure that you’d be able to do it. In fact I’d be more worried if the situation arose if you injuring a family member. You just don’t know how you’ll react in a situation you’ve never come across before.
Never said otherwise."Assault" rifles do not belong in the hands of civilians. They certainly aren't personal defence weapons.
Braggadocio........great word. I'm having that.Hopefully, we will never have to find out, but I think you’d be on the wrong side of history if push came to shove.
If it’s me or him…or any member of my family and him…it’s him!
I don’t mean to sound overly dramatic, but I’ve trained, I’ve simulated and I’ve practiced for well over a decade.
In a stress/range setting, I can put two in the chest and one in the head in a couple of seconds. Only 1 of those needs to hit the target in a household setting to put anyone down, or make them crawl away in deep regret! I know that sounds crazy to some of you, and braggadocio to others, but it’s a fact based on tears of training and practice. I’m not a hillbilly or a gun nut, but I am serious about gun safety and ability.
2 days after a school shooting, but you know...
Who the fuck needs 2 AR's, 2M-16's, a pump action shotgu, an Uzi and an M-60???
I would say any semi-automatic rifle (which can be converted to fully automatic, or pseudo automatic relatively easily) can be classed as an assault rifle.Never said otherwise.
But, while they are, who is going to take them away and how?
In that case, what’s your answer to the conundrum, and what makes a RIFLE and “assault” rifle? The plastic bits that make it look cool?? You can 3D print most of those!
2 days after a school shooting, but you know...
Who the fuck needs 2 AR's, 2M-16's, a pump action shotgu, an Uzi and an M-60???
Mate this is what I mean. You should be the LEADER here in calling for reform. Instead you’re defending the “Well, there’s nothing we can do now; Pandora’s box is open” line.Never said otherwise.
But, while they are, who is going to take them away and how?
In that case, what’s your answer to the conundrum, and what makes a RIFLE and “assault” rifle? The plastic bits that make it look cool?? You can 3D print most of those!
In what ways will I not like gun regulation?Mate this is what I mean. You should be the LEADER here in calling for reform. Instead you’re defending the “Well, there’s nothing we can do now; Pandora’s box is open” line.
You know more about these things then all of us combined.
Voting blue is not enough. It’s YOUR (meaning responsible gun owners’) responsibility to lead on regulation and control here. And if you don’t, I don’t think you have a single right to complain if those who know less try to do it for you in ways you don’t like.
Where is the anti-NRA responsible gun owners lobby, for starters?
So, a FEDERAL LAW then, that covers everyone in every state?I would say any semi-automatic rifle (which can be converted to fully automatic, or pseudo automatic relatively easily) can be classed as an assault rifle.
Just ban the sale of new ones and have a 5 year amnesty to hand them in. After that $1000 fine for the first year, then $10000 fine/6 months in prison after that.
I’ve already made this point many, many times, and you may already agree — guns need to be THE most regulated consumer good by a long way. Because they are unique — they only have one utilitarian purpose unlike effectively any other good. Not true of dogs, or cars, or anything else that I can buy, including anything that can be used as a weapon but has an alternate utilitarian function. It’s an absolute.In what ways will I not like gun regulation?
What EXACTLY do you want from me?
As a responsible dog owner, am I supposed to be marching to ban dangerous animals?
As a car owner, am I to lead the fight for safer cars…or just ban petroleum powered vehicles? I have one electric and have a Model Y on order. But, am I doing enough? Should I organize?
I’m one of MILLIONS of legal, responsible gun owners and I want violent offenders jailed for a loooong time. That’s the law now, but who the fuck follows it???
So, a FEDERAL LAW then, that covers everyone in every state?
HAHA! There are not enough police, DAs, attorneys, court rooms or prisons to enforce that law. And, as the saying goes, you make law-abiding citizens exercising their Constitutional Rights into criminals.
The REAL problem is that criminals who commit crimes with guns are not punished nearly strongly enough to deter people who use them.
That is the crux of the issue isn't it?I’ve already made this point many, many times, and you may already agree — guns need to be THE most regulated consumer good by a long way. Because they are unique — they only have one utilitarian purpose unlike effectively any other good. Not true of dogs, or cars, or anything else that I can buy, including anything that can be used as a weapon but has an alternate utilitarian function. It’s an absolute.
But what do I want you personally to do? That’s easy. Unless your job requires you carry one (I think it requires you have one in the cockpit but I can’t recall), just get rid of your gun. Set the example for other responsible gun owners. Or don’t tell anyone. Either way. Just get rid of it.
Do you think owning a gun will make you more or less likely to get shot?That is the crux of the issue isn't it?
Responsible gun owners wouldn't voluntarily give their guns up knowing that every crackpot in the village is stock piling.
I have been here 10 years and always been anti gun ownership but recently been toying with the idea of getting one on the basis that every other fucker has one. It isn't a case of keeping up with the Jones's but living on a level playing field.
Apologies for jumping In in that question, I would never consider any gun crime, everDo you think owning a gun will make you more or less likely to get shot?
i believe they’re called “the Democrats” and I vote for them every election!Mate this is what I mean. You should be the LEADER here in calling for reform. Instead you’re defending the “Well, there’s nothing we can do now; Pandora’s box is open” line.
You know more about these things then all of us combined.
Voting blue is not enough. It’s YOUR (meaning responsible gun owners’) responsibility to lead on regulation and control here. And if you don’t, I don’t think you have a single right to complain if those who know less try to do it for you in ways you don’t like.
Where is the anti-NRA responsible gun owners lobby, for starters?
It is the crux. Because until those that own decide that while they may feel less safe, other people will actually be safer, you never solve this.That is the crux of the issue isn't it?
Responsible gun owners wouldn't voluntarily give their guns up knowing that every crackpot in the village is stock piling.
I have been here 10 years and always been anti gun ownership but recently been toying with the idea of getting one on the basis that every other fucker has one. It isn't a case of keeping up with the Jones's but living on a level playing field.
No, thank you.I’ve already made this point many, many times, and you may already agree — guns need to be THE most regulated consumer good by a long way. Because they are unique — they only have one utilitarian purpose unlike effectively any other good. Not true of dogs, or cars, or anything else that I can buy, including anything that can be used as a weapon but has an alternate utilitarian function. It’s an absolute.
But what do I want you personally to do? That’s easy. Unless your job requires you carry one (I think it requires you have one in the cockpit but I can’t recall), just get rid of your gun. Set the example for other responsible gun owners. Or don’t tell anyone. Either way. Just get rid of it.
2 days after a school shooting, but you know...
Who the fuck needs 2 AR's, 2M-16's, a pump action shotgu, an Uzi and an M-60???
You really do like twisting people’s words and trying to incite support. It’s childish and ignorant, but other than that…hey, it’s the internet!They’re basically all holding hand guns with long barrels apparently, so nothing to see here. Perfectly normal behaviour.