Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Bluewonder said:
We just aren't seeing the surge in hospitalisations this time. Nothing like the surge in cases anyway.
Either the booster is doing a hell of a job or this strain is milder (or both)
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it’s about a 7 day lag As you say. But London where this is first kicking off has doubled it’s hospital admissions in the last 7 days.

100 to 200 but could easily be delta driving that for now.
 
grunge said:
it’s about a 7 day lag As you say. But London where this is first kicking off has doubled it’s hospital admissions in the last 7 days.

100 to 200 but could easily be delta driving that for now.
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Coupled with some of the lowest vaccination rates in the UK. It won't end well for some.
www.mylondon.news

London Covid vaccine uptake is so bad these boroughs have worst rates in the UK

London is the least-vaccinated place in the UK and Omicron is spreading rapidly through the city
www.mylondon.news www.mylondon.news
 
grunge said:
it’s about a 7 day lag As you say. But London where this is first kicking off has doubled it’s hospital admissions in the last 7 days.

100 to 200 but could easily be delta driving that for now.
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Just watching the NW news and positive cases up 76% in London in a week compared to 11% in the NW. Hospitalisations do look on the up in London.
 
grunge said:
it’s about a 7 day lag As you say. But London where this is first kicking off has doubled it’s hospital admissions in the last 7 days.

100 to 200 but could easily be delta driving that for now.
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There is a lot more detail on the Data thread about the hospital numbers across all the regions.

Suffice to say there clearly IS a rise in areas where Omicron is high. London is by far and away the most up and even today when patients FELL in England they would have fallen a lot more but for the increase in London and a much smaller one in the North West.

So Omicron is starting to drive numbers up but they are not yet anything like you mght expect for the giant rises in case numbers in London over the past week - trippled to 26,608 today alone in a week. And over 110,000 cases in the past week have produced 369 additional patients in London over the last 7 days as the % of them likely to be Omicron rose daily to around three quarters now.

If that sticks when it is all Omicron and cases and admissions match up date wise when adjusted for the lag then it is a hospitalisation rate of around 0.3% Three in a thousand cases.
 
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mexico1970 said:
What amazes me is that it's OK until 8pm, like you cant pass it on before then. Looking like doing something isn't the same as doing something IMO.

I haven't got the answers but I suspect this isn't it.
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It's like they have to be seen to do something and stopping people having fun they enjoy the most. Mingle all day in shops and supermarkets, cafes, even pubs but don't dare party at night.
 
mexico1970 said:
What amazes me is that it's OK until 8pm, like you cant pass it on before then. Looking like doing something isn't the same as doing something IMO.

I haven't got the answers but I suspect this isn't it.
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i think the answer is we crack on however we must protect the elderly and others at risk but we must get on and live with this now, i hear today that 450 people have died from cancer, how many Omicron deaths today? but we dont chase people up for cancer testing
 
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Hospitality in Ireland is to have an 8pm curfew imposed on it from Monday for a period of 30 days, which will be kept under review. An advisory Committee had recommended a 5pm curfew.

RTE news : Hospitality to close at 8pm from Monday under measures

www.rte.ie

'Massive rise in infection' warning ahead of new curbs

Taoiseach Micheál Martin has announced new restrictions to try to curb the spread of the Omicron Covid-19 variant as he warned of a "massive rise in infection" ahead.
www.rte.ie www.rte.ie
 
tonea2003 said:
i know we need more data but the news from sth africa is consistent

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Again. Excellent news.
Probably due to base immunity but we have that too. Vaccination rather than infection, as is the case in SA, but there you go.
The only thing to worry about is older patients 65-82 that SA doesn't have because they died from living in poverty most of their lives.
 
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I agree about the older patients but the good news is in Northern Ireland again today the numbers testing positive under 40 rose again (to over 9000 in past week) and the numbers over 60 doing so fell again to 611

As you can see. Only the booster programme seems to explain that. If it continues as Omicron spreads all will be OK.

There are still over three times more children - 2115 - under 10 testing positive than the 611 over 60. A sobering statistic given the relative risk profiles.

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Healdplace said:
There is a lot more detail on the Data thread about the hospital numbers across all the regions.

Suffice to say there clearly IS a rise in areas where Omicron is high. London is by far and away the most up and even today when patients FELL in England they would have fallen a lot more but for the increase in London and a much smaller one in the North West.

So Omicron is starting to drive numbers up but they are not yet anything like you mght expect for the giant rises in case numbers in London over the past week - trippled to 26,608 today alone in a week. And over 110,000 cases in the past week have produced 369 additional patients in London over the last 7 days as the % of them likely to be Omicron rose daily to around three quarters now.

If that sticks when it is all Omicron and cases and admissions match up date wise when adjusted for the lag then it is a hospitalisation rate of around 0.3% Three in a thousand cases.
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There are currently 65 people with Omicron in hospital. Early days though yet so could rise.
 
jimharri said:
Hospitality in Ireland is to have an 8pm curfew imposed on it from Monday for a period of 30 days, which will be kept under review. An advisory Committee had recommended a 5pm curfew.

RTE news : Hospitality to close at 8pm from Monday under measures

www.rte.ie

'Massive rise in infection' warning ahead of new curbs

Taoiseach Micheál Martin has announced new restrictions to try to curb the spread of the Omicron Covid-19 variant as he warned of a "massive rise in infection" ahead.
www.rte.ie www.rte.ie
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Jesus. And with any support from the Government?
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
There are currently 65 people with Omicron in hospital. Early days though yet so could rise.
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That number will rise by a lot. As soon almost all the 100,000 plus cases a day will be Omicron. So nearly all new inpatients will be.

Patients in the UK fell again by 96 to 7517 today. Only N Ireland was up slightly today. England was down 84.

879 on ventilators - 95 in the NW and 208 in London.
 
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mexico1970 said:
What amazes me is that it's OK until 8pm, like you cant pass it on before then. Looking like doing something isn't the same as doing something IMO.

I haven't got the answers but I suspect this isn't it.
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About as effective the “substantial meal” thing last year.

Oooh it’s ok, you can’t catch covid if you have a large pork pie with your pint.

A small pork pie though…nah sorry mate, not allowed.
 
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