Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Deleted member 77198]

Thats what I thought the data said - why I was surprised at the TV news. Maybe it was ITV. Not payng full attention.

Don’t bother listening or reading the news on any TV channel or from any newspaper at all anymore. They’re a bunch of fucking idiots, to a man on every channel and at every paper.

They’re all just dickheads on the WUM, 24/7.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Didn’t see that coming…

Any chance of all restrictions being reversed now?

It has to be milder. Quite a bit milder.

 

[hilts]

Again, it’s not cases that’s important in a majority vaccinated population, but hospitalizations and deaths.

If those are higher than before, then people will lose faith in the vaccination protocols we all undertook for our health and safety, and the looney toons who denigrated the vaccines will think they’ve been vindicated!

Immunology is hard, and the lay person simply isn’t equipped for the multi-step intellectual process that tries to explain why vaccines are a good thing, even if this new variant is spreading like wildfire and even vaccinated people might get it!

Wildfire is a good analogy, though, if you think of the vaccines as a fire suit! Would you rather stand naked before the wildfire as it sweeps across your path, in the hope that it won’t burn you, or would you rather wear a fire suit, in the same hope?

I’ve made my choice.

You flew over it?

 

[Marvin]

Imperial study on comparison of Omicron to Delta

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/mrc-gida/2021-12-22-COVID19-Report-50.pdf

 

[twosips]

Lots of good news flying about tonight it seems! Stepping ever close to endemicity in this country, fingers crossed.

 

[M18CTID]

That's terrible. Surely people working in the NHS must be given priority on all testing. This just sounds like stupidity. To think that people are only infectious for a few days but have to wait 96 hours for a result is ridiculous.

It’s ridiculous. Even at the peak of the January wave when I went for a PCR test (and subsequently tested positive), I got my result back the following day in the early hours of the morning

 

[BlueAnorak]

They’d argue they did, their October models being a good example. More examples in here -



What they wouldn’t have done is hit anywhere near their worst case scenario modelling, which are the figures that get over reported by the media.

Best case in their September model was 3 times actual cases. The models they use simply don't work and can't be retrofitted to previous waves of a similar virus. They are broken and not fit for purpose. Get some proper statistical modellers in from ONS or the City of London to build a model that works.

 

[blueinsa]

Absolute bullshit.

No it really isn’t.

Admit you got it wrong and move on.

 

[blueinsa]

just because it’s milder doesn’t mean the NHS is under severe pressure at the moment

Its clearly not under pressure from Omicron is it so are you suggesting we have restrictions because it’s not being run/funded/staffed/correct capacity?

If so I hope you are not suggesting that we suffer restrictions all the time now because of that?

 

[wolfie1988]

In times when there is not much to cheer, we should take all of the positivity we can.

Yes, be realistic. But every post doom and gloom, really?

 

[blueinsa]

Drakeford and Sturgeon are chancers.

Begging bowls out for money and when they have it they go on the attack.

Fact is without the handout, they also don’t put in restrictions and they can’t play politics.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Best case in their September model was 3 times actual cases. The models they use simply don't work and can't be retrofitted to previous waves of a similar virus. They are broken and not fit for purpose. Get some proper statistical modellers in from ONS or the City of London to build a model that works.

It's a yes from me. Someone who knows mathematical spatial modelling would be my choice, not a person who just does a little bit of stats on the side or one who just sets parameters in an already broken model

 

[blueparrot]

Drakeford and Sturgeon are chancers.

Begging bowls out for money and when they have it they go on the attack.

Fact is without the handout, they also don’t put in restrictions and they can’t play politics.

Think this is the thread you are looking for.

COVID-19: Political Discussion Thread

same shit new messenger - difference for Truss will be she will find out why Frosty the Showman scuttled off because the back drop will be all the new border checks and proper trading chaos. The EU have not changed their tune in all these years - its still a shock to some Brexiteers that the...

forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

 

[blueinsa]

Think this is the thread you are looking for.

COVID-19: Political Discussion Thread

same shit new messenger - difference for Truss will be she will find out why Frosty the Showman scuttled off because the back drop will be all the new border checks and proper trading chaos. The EU have not changed their tune in all these years - its still a shock to some Brexiteers that the...

forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

Indeed, my apologies but the line between covid and politics is pretty much merged right now imo.

Especially so when some are using it politically….

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

There were 90 572 COVID cases on 15th December ~55k of these were omicron up from ~50 on 28th November.
Doubling every 1.7 days If that had carried on, and Delta had just remained static, we would have had 340k cases on 20th December Only 76k so far on 20th. Might well have already peaked, fingers crossed..

 

[tomomcfc]

I'll be interested to here anybody's views on Australia's thinking going forward regarding covid!

 

[i8rags]

One things for certain, covid in all it’s guise’s is the most divisive subject I’ve ever known or heard of, the difference in views is staggering, the belief in these views is akin to the onset of civil war.
To the front lads, ur country needs you, forget north south divide this is beyond.
My family are torn apart, my work colleagues are torn apart, no fucker knows the answers but all believe we do.
One day my friends we shall have unification and an allegiance together, til then do what you need to in your own beliefs and let live.

 

[True_Blue69]

One things for certain, covid in all it’s guise’s is the most divisive subject I’ve ever known or heard of, the difference in views is staggering, the belief in these views is akin to the onset of civil war.
To the front lads, ur country needs you, forget north south divide this is beyond.
My family are torn apart, my work colleagues are torn apart, no fucker knows the answers but all believe we do.
One day my friends we shall have unification and an allegiance together, til then do what you need to in your own beliefs and let live.

Brexit was the starter, covid was the main. It was only a few years ago but already life seemed simpler before they both came along.

 

[lloydie]

Drakeford is a **** as is Boris. So you can go and crawl under your political point scoring blanket, I've no affiliation to any political party.

Ok , you’re apolitical but utterly stupid if you think there is even the remotest equivalence between Drakeford and Johnson

 

[trumpton]

He's such a cock is Tony Blair, rather take advice off Lionel Blair

No idea who Lionel Blair is. Go on, give us a clue.