Epstein / Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor / Maxwell

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inchy14 said:
But the world and his wife all knew about the rumours… you saying MI5 didn’t know stuff or even suspect?
Sorry mate just not buying it but leaving it there now, too busy laughing at spurs.
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You’re just guessing what Charles knew. Just as people are guessing what the Queen has said to Andrew. Just as the scousers guess about our accounting and the CAS verdict. It’s what people do in 2022 online.
 
Octavian said:
You’re just guessing what Charles knew. Just as people are guessing what the Queen has said to Andrew. Just as the scousers guess about our accounting and the CAS verdict. It’s what people do in 2022 online.
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Yes I’m guessing, and you’re ignoring the fact that rumours which we’re around in the 70’s, and that people openly mentioned were actually proven to be true, you’re believing that Charles knew fuck all or even hadn’t heard of them when it was openly mentioned at the time about how wrong he was.
 
inchy14 said:
Yes I’m guessing, and you’re ignoring the fact that rumours which we’re around in the 70’s, and that people openly mentioned were actually proven to be true, you’re believing that Charles knew fuck all or even hadn’t heard of them when it was openly mentioned at the time about how wrong he was.
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We’ve not had the benefit of being supported to do an actual investigation as ITV did for a documentary. The investigation said it believed Charles didn’t know. So far that’s the best we’ve got and therefore innocence must be presumed.
 
Octavian said:
We’ve not had the benefit of being supported to do an actual investigation as ITV did for a documentary. The investigation said it believed Charles didn’t know. So far that’s the best we’ve got and therefore innocence must be presumed.
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Ok, I’ve some magic bean for sale if you’re interested..
 
Octavian said:
We’ve not had the benefit of being supported to do an actual investigation as ITV did for a documentary. The investigation said it believed Charles didn’t know. So far that’s the best we’ve got and therefore innocence must be presumed.
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So Charles didn't know that his mate, Sadvile had a set of keys For Broadmoor Mental Hospital, Stoke Mandeville, and Leeds General Hospital?

I think he knew, and i think The Queen knew she was Knighting a nonce, but that is my opinion.
 
Octavian said:
You’re doing that thing where people repeat almost verbatim what they’ve read from another person on the internet, without even knowing the facts. People do it all the time with City bingo on Twitter.

This is from the latest ITV investigative documentary. Lessons indeed need to be learned but pretending you know Charles knew because “well he’d have to right?” Is stupidity.
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Sorry but no. Just No.
You’re doing that thing where people believe what they read in the newspapers. It happens all the time with City Bingo.

Are you honestly, truthfully, genuinely, saying you believe that the security services of this country - whose prime role is to protect the fabric of the nation, none moreso than the monarch and the future monarch - didn’t tell Lord Mountbatten’s nephew that he was inviting a known paedophile into his household? Think about that for a Moment. MI5, The Met police, and Special Branch MUST have known about Saville as they WILL have done a deep background check on him. And you believe they didn’t tell the future king? Ridiculous suggestion. Utterly preposterous and impossible, just impossible, to believe or give any credence to.
Johnny Rotten knew about him and was banned from the BBC for decades after he told the world on television.
Word has come out from dozens of sources after Saville died that ALL the top echelon at the BBC knew full well about Saville but for reasons of their own decided not to out him. And MI5 didn’t know? Or they did know but decided not to tell the future king, a man who was also at the time a father of young children? Utterly, completely impossible to believe. Impossible.

If it walks like a predatory paedophile, quacks like a predatory paedophile, and wears a shell suit like a predatory paedophile, its probably a good idea to tell the future king and young father.

Or you could believe that people charged with the future king’s safety and well being decided to keep it a secret from him.

Don’t believe all you read on the internet. It’s full of lying, scheming predators. Seemingly at the very highest levels of society.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Sorry but no. Just No.
You’re doing that thing where people believe what they read in the newspapers. It happens all the time with City Bingo.

Are you honestly, truthfully, genuinely, saying you believe that the security services of this country - whose prime role is to protect the fabric of the nation, none moreso than the monarch and the future monarch - didn’t tell Lord Mountbatten’s nephew that he was inviting a known paedophile into his household? Think about that for a Moment. MI5, The Met police, and Special Branch MUST have known about Saville as they WILL have done a deep background check on him. And you believe they didn’t tell the future king? Ridiculous suggestion. Utterly preposterous and impossible, just impossible, to believe or give any credence to.
Johnny Rotten knew about him and was banned from the BBC for decades after he told the world on television.
Word has come out from dozens of sources after Saville died that ALL the top echelon at the BBC knew full well about Saville but for reasons of their own decided not to out him. And MI5 didn’t know? Or they did know but decided not to tell the future king, a man who was also at the time a father of young children? Utterly, completely impossible to believe. Impossible.

If it walks like a predatory paedophile, quacks like a predatory paedophile, and wears a shell suit like a predatory paedophile, its probably a good idea to tell the future king and young father.

Or you could believe that people charged with the future king’s safety and well being decided to keep it a secret from him.

Don’t believe all you read on the internet. It’s full of lying, scheming predators. Seemingly at the very highest levels of society.
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You’re copying my City bingo point and replying to me with it :-)

I don’t fucking know if he knew, neither do you but you’re guessing that Mi5 do background checks on very well known celebrities before the Palace meets them. You don’t know if they did or not. Neither do I.

The only difference is you’ve decided they have. Well you can carry on if you want but don’t go on like it’s confirmed fact.
 
mosssideblue said:
I have been in the same room, and close enough to smell the breath of Phil the Greek (along with a handful of others(, with no additional vetting over and above of that to do our jobs)
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You mean they didn’t waterboard you for information before you went in ;-)
 
Kazzydeyna said:
Sorry but no. Just No.
You’re doing that thing where people believe what they read in the newspapers. It happens all the time with City Bingo.

Are you honestly, truthfully, genuinely, saying you believe that the security services of this country - whose prime role is to protect the fabric of the nation, none moreso than the monarch and the future monarch - didn’t tell Lord Mountbatten’s nephew that he was inviting a known paedophile into his household? Think about that for a Moment. MI5, The Met police, and Special Branch MUST have known about Saville as they WILL have done a deep background check on him. And you believe they didn’t tell the future king? Ridiculous suggestion. Utterly preposterous and impossible, just impossible, to believe or give any credence to.
Johnny Rotten knew about him and was banned from the BBC for decades after he told the world on television.
Word has come out from dozens of sources after Saville died that ALL the top echelon at the BBC knew full well about Saville but for reasons of their own decided not to out him. And MI5 didn’t know? Or they did know but decided not to tell the future king, a man who was also at the time a father of young children? Utterly, completely impossible to believe. Impossible.

If it walks like a predatory paedophile, quacks like a predatory paedophile, and wears a shell suit like a predatory paedophile, its probably a good idea to tell the future king and young father.

Or you could believe that people charged with the future king’s safety and well being decided to keep it a secret from him.

Don’t believe all you read on the internet. It’s full of lying, scheming predators. Seemingly at the very highest levels of society.
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spot on, and to carry that reasoning through, there is also no question whatsoever in my mind that whatever andrew got up to, the same security services and royals will have known about it. believing that the queen is some nice little old woman who doesn't really understand the world is doing a massive disservice to her. she's lived it, done it, fucked it, chucked it
 
bluejon said:
spot on, and to carry that reasoning through, there is also no question whatsoever in my mind that whatever andrew got up to, the same security services and royals will have known about it. believing that the queen is some nice little old woman who doesn't really understand the world is doing a massive disservice to her. she's lived it, done it, fucked it, chucked it
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Haha again more fucking guessing!

You don’t have a scooby ffs!
 
Octavian said:
We’ve not had the benefit of being supported to do an actual investigation as ITV did for a documentary. The investigation said it believed Charles didn’t know. So far that’s the best we’ve got and therefore innocence must be presumed.
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And Boris Johnson didn’t know he was at a party. So far, that’s the best we’ve got and therefore innocence must be presumed.
 
Octavian said:
You’re copying my City bingo point and replying to me with it :-)

I don’t fucking know if he knew, neither do you but you’re guessing that Mi5 do background checks on very well known celebrities before the Palace meets them. You don’t know if they did or not. Neither do I.

The only difference is you’ve decided they have. Well you can carry on if you want but don’t go on like it’s confirmed fact.
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I’m not guessing anything. It is standard procedure to deep check on anyone who comes into contact with the future king. And the closer and more regular the contact, the deeper and more extensive the background checks.

It is 100% fact that Saville‘s predilections for children and corpses were communicated to Charles. And also 100% true that for reasons of his own, Charles decided to enter into a years long, deeply personal relationship with him. I wonder what a relatively minor tv celeb from the north of England could possibly have that Lord Mountbatten’s nephew wanted so badly?

I have my own ideas as to why he would do that but that’s probably for another thread.
 
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