Epstein / Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor / Maxwell

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Alan Harper's Tash said:
Karen hasn’t got unanimous support for her position, so is stamping her feet. It’s quite common.
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Believe me there is no such thing as unanimous on this forum or in life..the forum allows us to express opinions and we dont necessarily like them all..as long as they reasoned and not abusive, fine by me..Agree with Kas on this one.
 
Well.

This thread is a massive eye opener. I won't multi quote all the replies. All I'll say is that just because a girl is legally allowed to have sex at 16 doesn't make it okay for you to have sex with her. Middle aged men thinking its okay is mind boggling. You've got serious issues if you want to fuck a girl who was in a school uniform 12 months earlier.
 
Nick_1985 said:
Noncey as fuck this mate. Lot of posters showing true colours here.
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You are right..I believe Kas was making the point that we should respect the victims here which is quite right..as long as guys like Andrew settle out of court with NDA's we will never know the truth, and I suspect that the truth would be damning not only for Andrew but many others.
I have read on this forum about Blues who were affected by the Robert Maxwell pension scandal.. it was a horrific abuse of people who saved money for their retirement and which was ultimately denied them..I believe Ghislaine was complicit in the whole Epstein saga..equally would be upset if she get off on some technicality..Does she deserve a whole life sentence, I feel that is harsh. Thoughts ???
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
I don't think anybody is trying to defend him; he's a wrong un'.

All we know for a fact is that sweaty Andy went to a known sex offenders private island and was photographed with a girl who later went on to claim the he had sex with her despite knowing that she'd been groomed and procured by Epstein for the purpose of having sex with rich, privileged men. She was 17 at the time of the alleged offence, which she claims he also knew.

He then made up an absolute crock of sh*t story and gave an ill advised car crash interview which just made him look guilty as f*ck.

We also now know that he's paid her a large settlement which essentially puts the civil case to bed (no pun intended). We can only speculate the reason behind this, but if I were forced to guess I would say he was fearful of disclosure evidence which may further damage his reputation and/or open him up to criminal prosecution in any future case.

Either way it is conduct unbecoming for any military officer, let alone a high profile member of the Royal Family.
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Like Maxwell deciding to sing for her supper
 
Bazzmand Show said:
At 17 people are sexually active, I agree that it's weird - but theres a reason it's not illegal for someone to sleep with people 16 or older.

Anthony Kiedes from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers was dating an 18 year old girl from Australia when he was at the age of 50. I didn't necessarily see huge outcry about that at the time.

The issue here for me is not the age gap or the fact she was 17, but the surrounding topic of the fact she was trafficked and potentially coerced into it.
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He lost his virginity aged 12 to his fathers girlfriend. I’m not sure he a barometer of anything.
 
Berts Neck said:
Believe me there is no such thing as unanimous on this forum or in life..the forum allows us to express opinions and we dont necessarily like them all..as long as they reasoned and not abusive, fine by me..Agree with Kas on this one.
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Absolutely. I can take it when my opinion isn’t shared around. Others, some with a 7 in their name, cannot.

I have never stopped, or asked to stop you, Karen 7 or anybody else on this forum or anywhere else.

I don’t also shout I’m out for dramatic effect either.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
You think a mother should cut off her son for shagging a seventeen year old?

I don’t think I know a single mother who would do that.
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
Who on this thread is ok with it?
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I’d say your first post seems to suggest you don’t think anything wrong was done? I must say I’m not shocked that someone of your alleged ilk thinks ‘shagging a seventeen year old ‘ is acceptable.
 
Pedestrian said:
I’d say your first post seems to suggest you don’t think anything wrong was done? I must say I’m not shocked that someone of your alleged ilk thinks ‘shagging a seventeen year old ‘ is acceptable.
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‘Alleged ilk’ Haha! Bit harsh that isn’t it?

On the subject of actually shagging 17 year olds I presume the majority voicing their disgust have no fucking chance anyway unless they went down the same route as the prince and paid.
My days of wanting to are long gone but believe me, you see some dressed up on their girls hols over here and most blokes would be like rats up a drainpipe if they thought they could get away with it.
 
Keep the Faith said:
It maybe something that was requested, but she said NO, and seeing as she had him over a barrel there was probably little he could do about it, failing going to trial
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So why pay it then? Isn't that what the money was for? Silence and to go away?
Otherwise he (or the tax payer) has paid £12m and can still face accusations and allegations against him from her.
Or claim another barrel load of cash in a few years time again?
 
Phil1 said:
‘Alleged ilk’ Haha! Bit harsh that isn’t it?

On the subject of actually shagging 17 year olds I presume the majority voicing their disgust have no fucking chance anyway unless they went down the same route as the prince and paid.
My days of wanting to are long gone but believe me, you see some dressed up on their girls hols over here and most blokes would be like rats up a drainpipe if they thought they could get away with it.
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Cool story.
 
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