Russian invasion of Ukraine

This is out of hand, there is no way Russia will ever peacefully occupy Ukraine w/o killing hundreds of thousands of people. Also, is Ukraine really the endgame or had Putin gone completely Hitler on us and is going to roll into Poland or another NATO country?
 
Putin's escalating tonight. He's gone so far in he'll obliterate the place to claim it. West has to put up tomorrow or we mark the cards for the next generation.
 
buckshot said:
This is out of hand, there is no way Russia will ever peacefully occupy Ukraine w/o killing hundreds of thousands of people. Also, is Ukraine really the endgame or had Putin gone completely Hitler on us and is going to roll into Poland or another NATO country?
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I would guess Moldova and Georgia next, non-EU, non-NATO.

I was reading the thoughts of expert economists on Moscow earlier though and Russia is going to be in pieces after this, so whether they have the ability to who knows.
 
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MCFC1993 said:
I would guess Moldova and Georgia next, non-EU, non-NATO.

I was reading the thoughts of economists though and Russia is going to be in pieces after this, so whether they have the ability too who knows.
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I know he's insulated from his people but how long will the people around him put up with this insanity? At some point his rich pals are going to get tired of sanctions and having their yachts/mansions seized.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
And the point was that while I might be fighting age (when in college, but almost 60 now), with the passport of another country the fight is not mine!

I’m happy to pay my taxes, have my country use them to supply his country with deadly weapons, but that’s as far as I, and BOTH my countries, are willing to go.

He should be more concerned about the 18-60 year olds on trains fleeing the country with Ukrainian passports, not USA or British!

But, that’s just my view.
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Precisely -I’m sure they are indeed stopping 18-60 year old Ukrainians fleeing and at the same time being thoroughly pissed with all these 40 something “Students” with families in tow legging it to safety
 
buckshot said:
I know he's insulated from his people but how long will the people around him put up with this insanity? At some point his rich pals are going to get tired of sanctions and having their yachts/mansions seized.
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This is it -a case of who takes him out first (you’d hope anyway). In all seriousness there must be all sorts of turmoil at the top of the Russian Federation right now as to “what next?” -etc
 
Ribble73 said:
Precisely -I’m sure they are indeed stopping 18-60 year old Ukrainians fleeing and at the same time being thoroughly pissed with all these 40 something “Students” with families in tow legging it to safety
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It’s an unreasonable belief to hold.

Ukraine doesn't even recognise dual nationality, how can you expect someone to fight in your war in that case.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
It’s an unreasonable belief to hold.

Ukraine doesn't even recognise dual nationality, how can you expect someone to fight in your war in that case.
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All this started me saying what your average Grunt/Ivan is going to think at the Border -and believe me it will be fuck anybody who’s legging it out of here -and I don’t blame them,
 
MCFC1993 said:
I would guess Moldova and Georgia next, non-EU, non-NATO, 'easy targets' as long as he threatens to go nuclear.

I was reading the thoughts of economists though and Russia is going to be in pieces after this, so whether they have the ability too who knows.
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NATO is a whole different beast, especially if unified with a purpose.
 
idahoblues said:
NATO is a whole different beast, especially if unified with a purpose.
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Article 5 has only been invoked one time after 9/11 and all NATO members stepped up. There is no way we could sit it out if they cross a NATO border. As horrible and inept as Dumb Donald was/is he didn't do anything like Putin is, I have to believe that even his inner circle realizes that everybody's life would be better if he wasn't in power.
 
 
p.taker said:
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Brilliant
 
Scottyboi said:
A new thread from a man who said this was all coming and wrote a book about it a few years ago. I don't want to post the full thread in here it will fill the screen but give it a read.

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Can someone let ‘Grandmaster and award winning author and Putin expert’ Kasparov know he’s chatting bollocks because bluesteel and chippy boy both know Putin will deffo stop at Ukraine if we can get them to surrender.
 
Bandofblues said:
Errr, what about the Spratly islands in the South China Sea? Creating new islands from dredged sand in-order to expand their 'territorial waters'?
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Exactly, China are hugely expansionist but remember that not everyone actually cares enough to read up on subjects they then comment on because “everyone has an opinion yeah”…
 
MadchesterCity said:
Let’s hope the economic migrants aren’t using this as a way into Europe Union countries! That was one of the problems before this started, people out with EU flying into Belarus and then trying to get into Poland.
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Kin ell! A little harsh wouldn’t you say?
 
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