Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Scottyboi]

Serbs coming out to support Russia, no surprise.

 

[BobKowalski]

Not too hard a job though here. People are understandably not overly keen on Russia.

Yeah, but did you have the guy live streaming to cheering crowds in the capitals of Europe?

If this was a movie you be going ‘nah, not having that‘.

 

[MCFC_ Phil]

Only if glen ain't happy about you nicking his drink ;-)

I know, we've already had the grammar police on.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I'm sure they won't be treating them with dignity or respect not sure where you got that from, but I suspect that is way off the mark

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I probably wouldn’t ask them anything or even speak to them.

Ostracise them?
I could live with that.
When they start asking why? we then tell them to choose a side.

 

[Ste1969]

Who's driving the crane..??

Dropalotofstuffov

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

or so we've been shown. I doubt they've been welcomed with open arms.

That’s not the same thing. Captives given food and water and mamas in Siberia given information about their captured or killed status.

Whilst their own side has crematoria vans for its fallen.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

And that's how you take the moral high ground. Fair play to her.

 

[Sir peace frog]

That’s not the same thing. Captives given food and water and mamas in Siberia given information about their captured or killed status.

Whilst their own side has crematoria vans for its fallen.

The Ukraine people have been phoning up dead Russian soldiers mums?
I appreciate your wanting to see the good in people but it wouldn't surprise me if that Russian soldier seen in the video hasn't been stood up against a wall, people don't take kindly to having their family, home and city's blown to bits, war is brutal on both sides

 

[Gabriel]

Serbs coming out to support Russia, no surprise.

Pitiful. Waving banners with the insignia of the various Russian attack columns. Hard to believe we inhabit the same continent at times.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

The Ukraine people have been phoning up dead Russian soldiers mums?
I appreciate your wanting to see the good in people but it wouldn't surprise me if that Russian soldier seen in the video hasn't been stood up against a wall, people don't take kindly to having their family, home and city's blown to bits, war is brutal on both sides

Ukraine Launches Website for Russians to Find Killed Soldiers - The Moscow Times

Ukrainian authorities on Sunday launched a website to help Russian families track down soldiers who have been killed or captured fighting in Moscow's invasion of the pro-Western country. The site — 200rf.com — contains pictures of the documents and corpses of Russian soldiers Ukraine said had...

www.themoscowtimes.com

 

[Eebo]

If you look back over history there are very few times when there wasn't some major war or another going on. It has always been about one country throwing its weight around and others making alliances and encouraging rebellions and conflict to stop that country becoming too powerful. Not only that but powerful countries have always found excuses, no matter how ridiculous, to justify doing what they want and starting wars.

Over the long-term it seems to be that decades of relative peace are actually not normal, and the more normal state of affairs is conflict and war.

Have we got too used to the idea of peace (in Europe) and therefore become incapable of imagining that not everyone is reasonable and decent and appreciates or enjoys peace?

We used to be very concerned about our supply of food, energy, wood, steel-making, ship-building and other key resources as issues of national security, but that seems to have gone out of the window and now we are happy to depend on others for the basics of our survival and our economy.

For example, the Greens and Eco-conscious folks never once made the case that we should invest in renewable energy as a key part of our national Security strategy, which (with hindsight) might have been a more persuasive argument than 'doing the right thing'. The government basically said Green Energy was too expensive and didn't want to subsidise it, but how much will they now spend to subsidise carbon based energy? Likely more than it would have cost to establish a largely renewable based energy sector.

The other thing that struck me is that as time has gone on the people who have to do the fighting are further and further from the people who have the power to start or end war. In medieval times Kings would go into battle with their knights and it was quite common for them to get killed. Later on, poor folks would be forced to join militias, which could then be sent off to war. Now we have professional armies, and they are completely expendable to killers and psychopaths like Putin.

 

[BringBackSwales]

There’s been a lot of nasty sexist undertones to the insults thrown at her lately, and this is a fine example.

It’s not sexist in the slightest, it’s alright to call a bloke a smug **** but not a woman?

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

If Russian losses begin to mount up will that alone be enough for Putin to reconsider this war? Say they lose 50,000 men that’s some sacrifice. Maybe more even. Anyone think there will be a tipping point in terms of Russian casualties?

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

That she loves russian music, have you ever watched russian top of the pops

Was looking forward to Homes Under the Hammer and Sickle but it seems RT has been taken down.

 

[MCFC_ Phil]

Not too hard a job though here. People are understandably not overly keen on Russia

If Russian losses begin to mount up will that alone be enough for Putin to reconsider this war? Say they lose 50,000 men that’s some sacrifice. Maybe more even. Anyone think there will be a tipping point in terms of Russian casualties?

Not for Putin. The population if they get the facts then yes

 

[hello]

If Russian losses begin to mount up will that alone be enough for Putin to reconsider this war? Say they lose 50,000 men that’s some sacrifice. Maybe more even. Anyone think there will be a tipping point in terms of Russian casualties?

900k reserves all expendable in his eyes to complete the special operation.

 

[Scottyboi]

900k reserves all expendable in his eyes to complete the special operation.

Won't be able to supply or afford them in a weeks time.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Won't be able to supply or afford them in a weeks time.

Could they be sent to fight in Ukraine, but apply for asylum there as money is non-existent in Russia and help them clean up?

It’d be a nice way to finish the war and Putin at the same time.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

If Russian losses begin to mount up will that alone be enough for Putin to reconsider this war? Say they lose 50,000 men that’s some sacrifice. Maybe more even. Anyone think there will be a tipping point in terms of Russian casualties?

Cant see why, he'll save face by blaming it on the evil, anti Russian, capitalist west