Russian invasion of Ukraine

[jaseirai]

What are the sanctions on these entities do we know could be the 18 the UK have applied can be hitting harder than the 490 the EU have applied doe's anyone have any insight.

He’s no idea and fails to mention EU country’s purchases of Russian oil and gas is directly funding the war. That’s what matters not houses in Belgravia or yachts in Bermuda.

 

[Phil1]

He’s no idea and fails to mention EU country’s purchases of Russian oil and gas is directly funding the war. That’s what matters not houses in Belgravia or yachts in Bermuda.

You Tories do like to stick together.

 

[JASR]

You Tories do like to stick together.

Oligarchwashing

 

[hello]

May be significant, may not...

Probably to collect the twats that got thrown out of the UN for being kgb.

 

[urban genie]

Just to clarify, your post was only moderated because it’s against the forum rules to copy & paste entire articles for copyright reasons. I even sought out the source of the article and added a link to your post, rather than just deleting it. I’d hardly class that as censorship tbf.

Think he is more about the pile on that followed instead of healthy debate on the perspective given in the article.

 

[wolviedinho]

Remind us, what were those good points?

I am not trolling through his posts to make a point. All I am saying is opposing viewpoints adds to the overall discussion. The topic is quite contentious at the moment and emotions high.

I have enjoyed the debate whether he is right or wrong.

 

[domalino]

I am not trolling through his posts to make a point. All I am saying is opposing viewpoints adds to the overall discussion. The topic is quite contentious at the moment and emotions high.

I have enjoyed the debate whether he is right or wrong.

So you said he made good points without actually knowing what they were or being able to recall any of them?

The reason So many asked what the good points were is because he didn’t make any good points, he just regurgitated Kremlin nonsense that’s long since been disproved.

There are loads of topics under the umbrella of this war and what it means that do have good points on both sides and there is no easy answer, but rascals got near unanimous rejection not because only one opinion is allowed but because his was so bad.

 

[KS55]

Obviously you weren't around in Britain in the late 40s.

Well I was actually. That gov achieved much on the social front, but economically zilch.
Your reply is not a serious answer.

 

[jaseirai]

I agree Abramovich's assets should be seized here, what else are Europe doing that we aren't apart from continuing to buy Russias oil and gas to fund Putins war. I don't really get the correlation between sanctions the UK are applying and refugee access TBH.

The Germans are supplying useless missiles from the Cold War. As generous as always.

Access Restricted

"A classified military document obtained by Spiegel magazine reads: “Owing to the obsolescence of the rocket motor, the Strela missile is no longer safe to handle, so it can no longer be fired.”

The wooden boxes in which the missiles are stored are reportedly so mouldy that when they were last inspected in November troops had to wear protective equipment"

 

[wolviedinho]

So you said he made good points without actually being able to recall any of those points?

Lol I could not be bothered looking through his posts. If I find the time then maybe I will get back to you @domalino.

Russia bad = All agree, collective pat on the back.
Russia good = Pile on the traitor.

Does that sum it up? :)

 

[urban genie]

So you said he made good points without actually knowing what they were or being able to recall any of them?

The reason So many asked what the good points were is because he didn’t make any good points, he just regurgitated Kremlin nonsense that’s long since been disproved.

There are loads of topics under the umbrella of this war and what it means that do have good points on both sides and there is no easy answer, but rascals got near unanimous rejection not because only one opinion is allowed but because his was so bad.

He reposted and opinion piece from a marxist paper first thing in the morning, he never said if it was his beloef or not tbf.

When he first posted it a few debated it or dismissed it as not relevent or not the time for this discussion, myself included, and while the day went on it was nowt but afootnote arls the pages rolled on.

How it blew up hours after is anyones guess as the article had already been sidelined and Rascal had even moved on in the thread topics.

It was an opinion whether right or wrong it added to the thread as a side topic as many other things have but once people stop posting about it (as I will after this) it won't even be remembered over the actual ongoing war news and debate.

 

[domalino]

He’s no idea and fails to mention EU country’s purchases of Russian oil and gas is directly funding the war. That’s what matters not houses in Belgravia or yachts in Bermuda.

40 percent of our coal and 20 percent of our petroleum products come from Russia, AFAIK we haven’t stopped that either.

 

[Phil1]

Lol I could not be bothered looking through his posts. If I find the time then maybe I will get back to you @domalino.

Russia bad = All agree, collective pat on the back.
Russia good = Pile on the traitor.

Does that sum it up? :)

Well considering Russia are indeed bad there's probably not much need for the second option.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

He’s no idea and fails to mention EU country’s purchases of Russian oil and gas is directly funding the war. That’s what matters not houses in Belgravia or yachts in Bermuda.

Well the ease with which Russians have bought £multi-million pads in London and avoided tax liabilities and had easy access to our political leaders, just might have encouraged the Ruskies to take the piss.

 

[Citizen Mike]

Yeah, we are going to find out in the coming decades that capatalism has a tipping point - you know all those resources that we keep destorying for it?

They have a finite life span.

the great thing about capitalism is that it reacts to what the demand is. Take the environment as an example , now the world has been educated on the harm of fossil fuels, the demand will be for electric cars rather than diesel. wind, solar and tidal will be the source of energy rather than fossil fuels. Creative destruction will always occur in capitalism and that will drive invention and innovation
So I disagree about finite as we will simply switch or face new sources of supply
This is not the thread so I will leave it here

 

[domalino]

He reposted and opinion piece from a marxist paper first thing in the morning, he never said if it was his beloef or not tbf.

When he first posted it a few debated it or dismissed it as not relevent or not the time for this discussion, myself included, and while the day went on it was nowt but afootnote arls the pages rolled on.

How it blew up hours after is anyones guess as the article had already been sidelined and Rascal had even moved on in the thread topics.

It was an opinion whether right or wrong it added to the thread as a side topic as many other things have but once people stop posting about it (as I will after this) it won't even be remembered over the actual ongoing war news and debate.

He’s been parroting Russian propaganda since this thread began and has had to constantly get debunked and corrected. A month ago he was defending Putin and having to get corrected before the war even began.

Then we had to go through his complete ignorance about how trump wouldn’t let it happen.

Yesterday he thought we shouldn’t be so keen to help out Ukraine because it’s full of neo nazis, and had to have it explained that the only reason he knew about the Azov group that makes up 0.025% of fighters on the Ukrainian side was because it was propaganda.

Obviously he had no idea about Russias 6,000 strong neo-nazi Wagner group they’ve sent in because wherever he’s getting this propaganda didn’t mention it.

 

[jaseirai]

40 percent of our coal and 20 percent of our petroleum products come from Russia, AFAIK we haven’t stopped that either.

20% of refined diesel.

 

[Slipper One]

We see and hear a lot of hand wringing about Russian troops, how they're just kids, they're
frightened, they don't want to be there, etc; Although it's a natural human reaction, to anyone with
any humanity, it's also a profoundly naive and dangerous view imo, when brutal invaders attack your land, kill your citizens and attempt to control the population by force. These 'Kids' need to be eliminated without mercy, Russian families must see thousands of body bags returning, mothers crying, and questioning the reasons for it. Destroying morale is one of the most effective methods of conducting a war.

To be fair, I don't think we should be tarring all troops with the same brush.

There are conscripts, regular troops, battle experienced troops and bloodthirsty Wagners.

If you were called up tomorrow and sent to fight in the Ukraine by the British Army, would you get there and simply refuse an order to take part in an offensive or shoot back at those shooting at you?

 

[west didsblue]

He’s no idea and fails to mention EU country’s purchases of Russian oil and gas is directly funding the war. That’s what matters not houses in Belgravia or yachts in Bermuda.

You should give the anti-EU rhetoric a rest for once. Or do it on the politics forum.

 

[kaz7]

Protestors are so impressive , walking up to russian soldiers and chanting ukraine , one has been shot but mostly russians firing into the air