Atletico (A) - Post-Match Thread

[Woody135]

Not much chat about it, but how fucking brilliant was it of Zinchenko to pile in on Savic to defend Foden. Heart of a lion that boy

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Commentary said three minutes added on, the screen said nine, the ref played twelve

And Simeone still bitched about it

That's because the twat in black Simeone wanted the full twelve rounds

 

[Lavinda Past]

There were only two bad tackles over the two legs. There’s nothing wrong with the way Atlético played or play in general, I don’t think they’re a particularly dirty team, and other than Felipe none of their players did anything that dangerous. They were a bit physical but nothing out of the ordinary.

What was funny was seeing their attitude unravel in front of our eyes because they couldn’t handle us playing them at their own game with diving, rolling around, wasting time, moaning at the ref, winding them up, laughing in their faces, calling them names, players rushing off the bench and running onto the pitch, manager laughing at their players, manager moaning at the ref and pointing at their bench… and making it all seem like it was them who were at fault because we did it in a way where we kept our cool and they lost the plot! That’s what they usually do and they couldn’t understand or accept us doing it back to them.

I reckon they’ll fucking hate us after last night!

Phil Foden was the stuff of legend last night. The boy has become a real man.

 

[Hayley Croppers chopper]

You can still call it out for the disgrace it is though.

Folk going on about how it's "old school" football and they love to see it are just talking shite.

I can enjoy Ronaldo getting booted but still admit that just booting him would be a disgrace.

I remember when Steven Jordan trod on him.
Wasn’t nice.

 

[ancoats]

Atlético was hell-bent over the 2 legs not to make friends with Manchester city
last night was shocking and forget any respect ? they over stepped the mark and kicked us and headbutted and cheated their way out of the champions league.

it was old fashion bullying and intimation by them and the officials lost the plot. at one stage i thought he was going to send off a city player as well in that flash point ? i still don't know how we ended with 5 yellow cards and only 3 injuries.

let's hope we can recover in time for saturday and doing it all again at wembley

 

[bigf42]

48 years since the AM Celtic debacle. Last night wasn’t as bad as that, but laid bare the dispicable nature of that apology of a football club. While there are weak referees and a totally ineffectual governing body(sorry corrupt), then they and others will continue with the cynical style.

We grew up last night as a club, and I am so. Proud of our performance.

 

[Father Paul]

Football: the never ending abuse of the word "passion" to disguise tribal thuggery. Cheating and law breaking never sorts men from boys, it reveals the cowardly thug.

Clearly no meeting of the minds here. Personally apart from the last 10 mins or so can't really see much wrong with what they tried to do last night. They had a right go particularly 2nd half and used the home support to great effect. Our lads were under the cosh big time and clearly growing in weariness but dug down to the bowels of the earth to grind out a result. Not a game to light up the ages but it turned out to be an epic arm wrestle which our boys can be proud of surviving.

 

[kaz7]

Thought the players were mentally immense last night putting up with all sorts.

In my opinion Pep made all the right subs taking off the ineffective KDB & Bernie & putting on the experience of Fernie & pace of Raz. However, I was disappointed he didn't change the tactics with these subs. The attackers & midfield needed to get closer to the defenders to give them better options which more than often left with no option but to hoof it long to Phil who was never going to win headers. The Atletico pressing was impressive but all it needed were better quality on the ball to release Raz which would have made them think twice in pressing us so aggressively.

Anyway, all academic as we're in the semi finals!

Kev asked to come off as he was injured

 

[DrBlueBob]

We have always hated they dirty bastards. This may explain why. Well done in knocking the cunts out.

The games gone soft.

 

[Rascal]

There dark arts and a bit of shithousery or whatever it’s called these days but Fernandinho never goes out to injure people or take it too far. That’s not hypocritical or blue tinted specs either. That last night was bordering on Sunday league antics.
And yeah we do play football the right way and we should be applauded for it and those no marks yesterday should get no praise from anyone in football.

To try and compare them to Wimbledon of years gone by as well is an insult to the dons. Yes those boys knew there limits and mixed it up by never resorted to 90 minutes of that bullshit.

I’m 40 and forgive me as I don’t know your age but I really don’t recall this level of thuggery from teams for a constant 90 minutes. Maybe I’m a tad angry still at what went on last night but I just can’t agree that last night was a proper European football match and blood and guts type game.


It wasn’t. It went too far. The assault on foden in the first few minutes or the prick savic barging into foden when he was nowhere near the ball. They left the foot in after everything and that challenge on foden at the end where he had already won the ball could have broke his leg. Then the reactions after like they had done fuck all wrong. Na I’m not having any of that.

another lad has likened them to Wimbledon etc. Those boys could control there emotions and played on the edge and dare I say wouldn’t really have wanted to seriously injure someone for the whole 90 minutes. They would probably even pick you up after a challenger or have a wry smile.
This lot were totally out of control. Just look at the way the acted after the game and in the tunnel.
It’s not right and it’s not football.

Look I’m not trying to get into any kind of argument with you or anyone as we are all city fans and we see things differently in just passionate about what I saw last night and I didn’t like it one bit.

The fact you are 40 means you have only ever witnessed a sanitised version of the game.

You never saw the thuggery of Leeds, Chelsea, you cannot have seen much of early Wimbledon or any of the Italian sides who were renowned for it. Atleti are a throwback to that era, in that era every team had players who were hardmen, in my time Mick Doyle would have relished last night, Gerry Gow would have loved it, even the likes of Francis Lee would have been in his element.

I aint condoning Atleti btw, i just think they have found a way to play that suits them and they offer a challenge to teams that we rarely see nowadays.

 

[Lavinda Past]

Football: the never ending abuse of the word "passion" to disguise tribal thuggery. Cheating and law breaking never sorts men from boys, it reveals the cowardly thug.

You are Walter from 'Walter and the Softies' and I claim my £5.

Two Atletico players lost the plot and everyone screams 'cheating' and 'lawbreaking'.

There was hardly a strong tackle in the game and very few fouls. It was proper full-blooded football and a few tempers frayed.

If you think that was 'thuggery', you've most likely never played in a proper game of football in your life.

Stick to kick abouts in the park, you'll be safe there.

 

[mcfcbill91]

Think the players deserve immense credit for last night, especially given the intensity of the last 8 days. I wouldn't be surprised if Pep & Klopp have something to say about the ridiculous scheduling of the fixtures this week - utter farce to play Sun/Weds/Sat.

It was all grimly predictable from Atletico, from the snide free hit challenge on Foden through to the fracas at the end. The intention was to turn it into a 30-45 minute match and we did exceptionally well to combat it - the new 5 sub rule means teams can completely remodel their attack and tactics.

Questionable refereeing again, was far too lax. Needed the fussy approach you often used to see in CL games, would've kept the temperature down to an extent.

The next few weeks are exciting/terrifying, everyone will need to step up. Nathan Ake the perfect example of squad players being a reliable option.

 

[DrBlueBob]

CAN I HAVE YOUR AUTOGRAPH, What do you think he said, 1

He said that first, Jack only called him a **** when Savic refused. Fair enough I suppose.

 

[Gray]

I wan't really watching the replay, as my ear was glued to my tranny (transistor radio, you pervs), listening to a rather important match taking place in Vienna at the same time.
Then I got pissed.

I didn’t watch it either as I was in the Prater Stadium getting soaked to the skin.

 

[DrBlueBob]

Utter scum. Wee Jimmy Johnstone was a fucking warrior. Never gave in.

Mad drug taking bastard. :-) Didn't he juggle the ball up the wing in '67?

 

[Manchester_lalala]

One thing I am going to do from now is look out for Atletico’s results and have a nice smile on my face when they lose. Hope they don’t get into the champions league next season.

 

[Gray]

All things considered, the ref, the violent cheating (coached cheating), the head butts, the provocation and the natural ability they unquestionably have, that was the best City performance I've seen in my life - and I've been going since 68!! Franny, Mike Doyle, Mike Summerbee, Dave Watson, Joe Royle, George Heslop, would have downed the bastards on the spot. Since then, Nigel dJ, Gerry Gow and a few others would have done likewise.

Tuart could handle himself.

 

[samarasra]

Clearly no meeting of the minds here. Personally apart from the last 10 mins or so can't really see much wrong with what they tried to do last night. They had a right go particularly 2nd half and used the home support to great effect. Our lads were under the cosh big time and clearly growing in weariness but dug down to the bowels of the earth to grind out a result. Not a game to light up the ages but it turned out to be an epic arm wrestle which our boys can be proud of surviving.

Actually there is a meeting of the minds with you. I completely agree with the rest of your post, just the last 10 mins was an exhibition of thuggery not passion uncontrolled.

 

[daztrueblue91]

Simeone showed why he is one of the best coaches in the world over the two legs against us. He gambled on making 180 minutes of football a 45 minute shootout with him having the home advantage. It very nearly worked as well. I don’t like his style or football but I can appreciate the job he’s doing at Atletico.

What won us the game was our composure and use of the dark arts. Most sides, including us in the past, would have buckled under the pressure. A hostile home crowd, fatigued team and a battling home side throwing the kitchen sink at us. Instead, we turned the tide on them with our shithousery and I’m surprised it got to them if I’m being honest. Phil’s antics at the end were brilliant and really got them pissed off.

Every successful side has that dark side in them. United used to intimidate the ref at every opportunity and would take turns to tactically kick a player out of the game. I remember Reyes and SWP being kicked all over the place against them. This current Liverpool side are well known for exaggerating contact and winning penalties. We seem to be masters at wasting time and annoying the opposition.

I suppose the big difference between Atletico and the other sides is that the dark arts seems to be their go to tactic or plan A, whereas all other sides use it when needed. It also makes it even sweeter when they complain about time wasting.

I don’t actually think the ref had a bad game aside from the last 5 minutes. He missed a blatant yellow card on Felipe’s challenge on Phil but aside from that he let a lot go. What does piss me off, and this is a thing refs do in general, is give out token yellow cards during the brawls to deescalate things. Savic should have been given three yellow cards and a red for his antics at the end alone. Yet he received the same punishment as Ake.

 

[Nellies left peg]

48 years since the AM Celtic debacle. Last night wasn’t as bad as that, but laid bare the dispicable nature of that apology of a football club. While there are weak referees and a totally ineffectual governing body(sorry corrupt), then they and others will continue with the cynical style.

We grew up last night as a club, and I am so. Proud of our performance.

I agree, I think we have finally come of age in European competition giving the wankers back what they dish out and laughing in their faces