It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

DeBlueLou said:
Just the signing of Cucurella ALONE unlocks a whole new world of formations and tactics for Pep, which should be another reason for him to be fired up for next season with one signing alone.
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I think so. He's different to Zinchenko and if we sign him I think he'd offer more down the left hand side.
 
BillyShears said:
I think so. He's different to Zinchenko and if we sign him I think he'd offer more down the left hand side.
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Lots of options for the mad scientist to play with. Stick Phillips in for a 4231 and let Cucurella/Cancelo provide the width all day and kev in a free role right up against the Viking.

352
433
4231
424

All available with quality all over and no one shoehorned in.
 
The slaughtered lamb said:
I reckon he sees systems much the same as the squad - that they have to be freshened up every so often. If we sign Phillips, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him alongside Rodri quite often, with full backs playing more forward, allowing the likes of Grealish to tuck inside more, and with our get-out-of-jail free card up front. 4-2-3-1. Like you say though, probably very flexible.
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Spot on. I think it's going to be in incredibly exciting season, regardless of what the excitement police on here think.
 
BillyShears said:
FWIW I've heard that Edu has him totally convinced and he's told City/his agents that he wants to move to Arsenal. Be interesting to see what figure they land at.
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I suppose that with Edu having worked with the Brazilian National Team, he will be very close to Tite, the national team coach and it must, shall we say, enhance his selection chances.

I don’t want to totally disrespect Arsenal and what Arteta is trying to achieve, but it does feel a little bit like he’s joining Arsenal not so much to play for Arsenal, but to play for Brazil.
 
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To me the Felix links is there if we lose all 3 of Mahrez, Sterling and Jesus. It's city just preparing a "just in case" scenario. Which is what you should expect the club to do when the 3 are on 1 year left

Jesus definitely looks like he is gone. But the other 2 I don't think will go anywhere and therein dies our interest in Felix. But if for some reason Mahrez wants to go PSG and sterling says I'll go Chelsea or something then yeh Felix is back on the table
 
Gumzy97 said:
Do you reckon we go to 3-5-2? Pep experimented with that in 17/18 until a certain LB got an ACL injury. We looked dangerous with 2 strikers
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I can't see 352, though I have wondered about 4132, with the 3 from KDB Foden Grealish, Bernardo,the 2 from Haaland Alvarez Sterling and overlapping full backs.
 
BlueBrain said:
To me the Felix links is there if we lose all 3 of Mahrez, Sterling and Jesus. It's city just preparing a "just in case" scenario. Which is what you should expect the club to do when the 3 are on 1 year left

Jesus definitely looks like he is gone. But the other 2 I don't think will go anywhere and therein dies our interest in Felix. But if for some reason Mahrez wants to go PSG and sterling says I'll go Chelsea or something then yeh Felix is back on the table
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Two out of three of those leaving means City goes for another attacker. All three leaving warrants 2 attacking signings.
 
blueparrot said:
I can't see 352, though I have wondered about 4132, with the 3 from KDB Foden Grealish, Bernardo,the 2 from Haaland Alvarez Sterling and overlapping full backs.
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3-5-2 is bang on a formation Pep would use if he got a left footed leftback that overlaps and can play LWB like Cucurella can, with Alvarez and Haaland up top. Not perhaps this season, but when theyve both settled.
 
DeBlueLou said:
Two out of three of those leaving means City goes for another attacker. All three leaving warrants 2 attacking signings.
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Why?

Haaland
Álvarez
Foden
Grealish
Palmer
Mahrez/Sterling/Jesus

Is plenty of options. Nah only if all 3 leave do we need another attacker
 
DeBlueLou said:
3-5-2 is bang on a formation Pep would use if he got a left footed leftback that overlaps and can play LWB like Cucurella can, with Alvarez and Haaland up top. Not perhaps this season, but when theyve both settled.
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We used it before a certain LB got injured in the 17/18 season, Jesus and Aguero ripped Liverpool apart in that 5 nil win. Alvarez and Haaland could do the same

Its a mouth watering prospect for fans and Pep.
 
BillyShears said:
Honestly, I think the core of the team's philosophy/tactics will remain 433 - but the signing of an orthodox left back/wing back and having genuine strikers on the books will absolutely give Pep more room to move things around in game or to come up with one off tactics for certain opponents.

One thing which has struck me - if you go back to Pep's time at Bayern he used tons more formations than he has done at City. I think part of that was just him keeping himself amused in a flat track league, but I also think the fact he had more versatile players and more intelligent players allowed him to do that.

Our squad is getting to that stage now where you can see him being able to move things around more.
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If I remember correctly, Pep said that winning the second balls is the key to winning in the PL. I think it was in the close season a year after he joined that he opened up about the issues he had to resolve.

Therefore, he will always have different formations here than elsewhere. He needs 4 players at the back when attacking to stop the opposition out ball. 2 CBs, one to engage, one to drop off, CDM (it’s no coincidence that Rodri is 6’4”) to front screen their forward and a tucked in full back as an auxiliary CDM.

Maybe he could do that with Rodri as one of the back 3, but I can’t see it happening in bigger games as the 4th player would have to be a wing back, which negates one side from attacking.
 
BlueBrain said:
Why?

Haaland
Álvarez
Foden
Grealish
Palmer
Mahrez/Sterling/Jesus

Is plenty of options. Nah only if all 3 leave do we need another attacker
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City would not go from having Mahrez Sterling and Jesus to just one of those and Palmer for a full 60 game season. Come on now... and Tolmie confirmed my thesis on city getting one if two leaves etc.
 
Gumzy97 said:
We used it before a certain LB got injured in the 17/18 season, Jesus and Aguero ripped Liverpool apart in that 5 nil win. Alvarez and Haaland could do the same

Its a mouth watering prospect for fans and Pep.
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That should give him a lot more motivation, not only that City are signing proper players but actually giving him the tools to be more creative.
 
BlueBrain said:
Why?

Haaland
Álvarez
Foden
Grealish
Palmer
Mahrez/Sterling/Jesus

Is plenty of options. Nah only if all 3 leave do we need another attacker
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Squad numbers is why we would replace Jesus, you've got the EFL Cup, Fa Cup, Champions league, Premier league. Also the world Cup to contend with next season . Pep respects the cups so he's not going to throw in youth.

Alvarez replaces Torres
Haaland replaces Aguero
Jesus needs a replacement if he leaves. So the squad isn't thin in the run in.
 
Gumzy97 said:
Squad numbers is why we would replace Jesus, you've got the EFL Cup, Fa Cup, Champions league, Premier league. Also the world Cup to contend with next season . Pep respects the cups so he's not going to throw in youth.

Alvarez replaces Torres
Haaland replaces Aguero
Jesus needs a replacement if he leaves. So the squad isn't thin in the run in.
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My point is; Jesus leaving alone makes Palmer enough to cover as 3rd choice RW BUT if we sell two of those rws then we must and will sign a top level winger.
 
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