Marc Cucurella

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Fair enough. Many said the same about Angelino. He came, he saw, and he moved on. And he is a Champions league caliber Leftback.

Too many underestimate how good Zinchencko is.
He hasnt played left back since he departed. He is a left wing back in a 3-at-back formation. And a very poor defender
 
Take the final game, Cancelo, a fullback, lost Cash inexplicably on their 1st goal. Then Cash turned around and lost Gundogan multiple times in 10 minutes., These are all lifelong fullbacks. No one questions their 'fullbackness".
Marty (sic) Cash who's was a winger until a few years ago?
 
The same problem as with Angelino would be with Pedro Porro. Right wing-back who is playing in 1-3-4-3 system and cannot defend.
 
In hindsight people said the above about Angelino.

Before he came though, many, very many, thought he'd be an amazing LB and would easily dispose of this midfielder masquerading at Leftback.

It doesn't matter how many great games Zinchencko has at LB, folks will just wait around till he has a bad game, and that bad game would be pointed at as evidence he is not a "Real Leftback." Whatever that is.

Zinchencko is a leftback. A very good one at that. One of the better ones we've had at City.

Hope we get him some competition, and they both get playing time based on strategy and availability.

Zinchenko has now won FOUR premier leagues playing left back.

How anyone can actually say “he’s not a left back” is beyond me.
 
Zinchenko has now won FOUR premier leagues playing left back.

How anyone can actually say “he’s not a left back” is beyond me.
Fabian Delph has TWO premier leagues and he is not a left-back and a guy who is struggling even on Everton's side.
 
Fabian Delph has TWO premier leagues and he is not a left-back and a guy who is struggling even on Everton's side.
Delphis old an injury prone. Zinchencko got to City as a kid. Played leftback every year since he got here. He is a Leftback. Sure he is a fantastic mid too.

Do you also think Zabaleta isn't a Rightback?
 
Are you saying his Rightback cred is in question?
I thought it was fairly obvious? I did bold it for clarity! You said he was a lifelong full back - he isn't. He broke through at forest as a winger and then moved to full back.
 
Fabian Delph has TWO premier leagues and he is not a left-back and a guy who is struggling even on Everton's side. Amazing lack of arguments.

Delph was established as a midfielder in a top league prior to us buying him.

Zinchenko was not.

Zinchenko probably has less than 2 appearances in midfield from his 100 plus as a left back.

He’s a left back. He’s just not a left back you understand as he does it differently.

Its like how people thought Pogba was anything other than a left winger or thought Gerrard wasn’t a winger. Just because they play it differently doesn’t mean they are playing the position well.

Zinchenko’s give and go attributes are far superior to many other, more traditional full back attributes. I’d say he’s second only to the ugly prick at the scouse in terms of being effective at left back.

I’d like Cucurella but I also like Zinchenko as he offers a completely different way of playing.
 
Fair enough. An overstatement on my part.


Where he won player if the season as a RB. But I didn't know his fullback status was in question. L
Where did I question his full back status?

It's far easier to just say you were wrong he wasn't a lifelong full back, But I suppose that wouldn't fit in with belittling other posters opinions.
 
Zinchenko has now won FOUR premier leagues playing left back.

How anyone can actually say “he’s not a left back” is beyond me.
He is our best LB by a long way, Cancelo gets away with it because 90% of the season we are on the front foot & Cancelo is excellent going fwd & turning into the midfield spaces but he can't fucking defend

Zinchenkos feet, passing is outstanding he gets us out of a hole easily with the inside or outside balls
When he dropped in at LB in the last part of the season he defo changed made us solid & the shape was much better

The Villa game Absalutely proves we can't let him go 100% he has to stay the fans & this club are everything to him

Look at the over lapping he does & we definitely hit the goal line so much more than we did with Cancelo playing
 
He is our best LB by a long way, Cancelo gets away with it because 90% of the season we are on the front foot & Cancelo is excellent going fwd & turning into the midfield spaces but he can't fucking defend

Zinchenkos feet, passing is outstanding he gets us out of a hole easily with the inside or outside balls
When he dropped in at LB in the last part of the season he defo changed made us solid & the shape was much better

The Villa game Absalutely proves we can't let him go 100% he has to stay the fans & this club are everything to him

Look at the over lapping he does & we definitely hit the goal line so much more than we did with Cancelo playing

yeah I don’t love Cancelo at left back as I find it stifles the player in front of him and would much prefer he share the right back slot with walker.
 
Yeah, Guardiola has told us that Zinchenko is playing out of his position for many years, but the forum specialists have decided that Zinchenko is a left-back despite having not so many attributes for a typical LB.
 
yeah I don’t love Cancelo at left back as I find it stifles the player in front of him and would much prefer he share the right back slot with walker.
100% I love Cancelo not having a dig at him but that quick flow of passing doesn't happen it's a Right footer doing what they naturally do turn inside

You watch when Cancelo & Grealish play together it's definitely not a match made in heaven

It's tough because of the points we accumulated over each season it's always the shit games we remember which aren't many but these slight changes which imo a naturall left footer & Right footed player at the back should play in there own position

Cancelo is moved into the LB role to keep him happy imo

Walker can't play week in week out 5 subs will give us more protection going fwd

We need a LB to share duties with Zin imo

Cucurella & Zinchenko
Walker & Cancelo
 
Compared to who? Cancelo? Walker? Marty Cash? The Liverpool RB?

Take the final game, Cancelo, a fullback, lost Cash inexplicably on their 1st goal. Then Cash turned around and lost Gundogan multiple times in 10 minutes., These are all lifelong fullbacks. No one questions their 'fullbackness".

I think Zinchencko is an underappreciated fullback. Perhaps Cucurella is a better defender or maybe he just plays on a team that defends more and has more help... We'll find out soon enough :)
Cash and Cancelo are both former right sided midfielders converted to full back. I have longstanding concerns over Cancelos defensive acumen also great going forward but not someone to be relied upon in his own half.
What is clear is that many of the hyped modern attacking fullbacks lack primarily on the defensive end. Zinchenko nice guy solid squad member to fill in but never someone you want to be relying on defensively in the biggest matches. As for Angelino please - never of the required quality for City.
 
Cash and Cancelo are both former right sided midfielders converted to full back. I have longstanding concerns over Cancelos defensive acumen also great going forward but not someone to be relied upon in his own half.
What is clear is that many of the hyped modern attacking fullbacks lack primarily on the defensive end. Zinchenko nice guy solid squad member to fill in but never someone you want to be relying on defensively in the biggest matches. As for Angelino please - never of the required quality for City.
Yeah, let's pretend that Zinchenko is a top-class option when Liverpool has Robertson, Bayern Alphonso Davies, and Real Madrid Ferland Mendy. All of them are different gravy in comparison to Zinchenko. Solid squad member, but nothing more.
 
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