Liam Delap | £16m bid from Southampton rejected

LongsightM13 said:
Judging where they were at the same age. Liam shattered all previous records at PL2 level. A goal a game.
At the age Liam is now, Broja was off to the Eredivisie where he got 10 in 30. Respectable but not outstanding.
Give Liam 30 games in Holland and 33 games at Southampton over the next two seasons and I will bet any money he gets more than 16 in total
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Possibly, but nothing suggests he will. From pl2 and any other step up is huge. Really astounds me how youth players with next to no minutes get talked up on here. They may have potential, I hope they all do: wait until they kick a first team ball before making wild statements
 
LongsightM13 said:
Broja scored 6 goals in 32 PL appearances last season on loan at Saints and Chelsea wanted £30m for him. Delap is levels above that guy
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Shearer Scored 3 goals in 26 games for Southampton at the same age as Broja. 19/20 is very young for a Striker. Think he’s a decent prospect, to say Delap is levels above him at this stage is lunacy!
 
Bluearmy said:
Shearer Scored 3 goals in 26 games for Southampton at the same age as Broja. 19/20 is very young for a Striker. Think he’s a decent prospect, to say Delap is levels above him at this stage is lunacy!
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Again. Their records at the same age
Liam was way ahead, different class
Broja is only ahead in terms of age and opportunity
Put Liam in the Eredivise next year and give him 30 games.
Do you seriously think he won’t score 10?
Even John Guidetti got double that
Give him 32 apps for Saints next year
Do you seriously think he won’t beat 6 goals?
I’m all for patience with our young lads but this lad is a man, a natural goalscorer. Lost almost a year to injury but he’s hungry and ready to fuck people up
Broja is 21 in about 5 weeks btw. ie He is two years above Liam in age group Football
 
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Delap it up
 
Pollocksheader said:
Possibly, but nothing suggests he will. From pl2 and any other step up is huge. Really astounds me how youth players with next to no minutes get talked up on here. They may have potential, I hope they all do: wait until they kick a first team ball before making wild statements
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You will probably find that a lot of them have never even seen the youth players concerned play at pl2 level.
 
I think that Liam is a natural finisher but he is very, very raw. He is capable of moments of brilliance but also moments of frustration - a bad challenge, a dribble too far, or a failure to press. There is no criticism there, he is just a work in progress, and the only question is whether his development is now best served with us or someone else. As things stand, I think that if he is going to get playing time in the cup competitions, then he should stay; if not, I would be in favour of a loan to the Championship.
 
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I understand the hesitation to "big up" our youth players. Yet we are creating an elite crop.
3 of the best young cbs I've seen at their age groups, not just talent but leadership skills as well in thb, doyle and mbete.
Mcatee in cm is elite in every way. Passing, shooting, dribbling, etc he's gold dust.
Palmer is a young lad who creates time on the ball and is a killer infront of goal.
Delap is a cb bully and a killer in the box.
Most of their qualities aren't expected in kids ie, leadership, slowing the game down, perfect decision making, timing runs, etc. Normally you get excited about how skillful a young kid is or if they have a good shot on them. Personally, I think these kids are way ahead on their development and are worthy of the faith people have in them.
Having said that, all it takes is a bad injury, a lack of confidence or poor a single poor judgement on a night out to not fulfill their potential. So sit back and enjoy this crop of talent, our squad and eds, u18s are brimming with it. It's a great f@#king club to be involved with and to support. Not many of us saw this happening over a decade ago. I never thought I'd see an England captain come through city's youth when lakeys career ended, but we live in hope. Let's enjoy probably the most exciting season in the last 5 years, its an unpredictable one with so many ifs and maybes.
 
I understand the hesitation to "big up" our youth players. Yet we are creating an elite crop.
3 of the best young cbs I've seen at their age groups, not just talent but leadership skills as well in thb, doyle and mbete.
Mcatee in cm is elite in every way. Passing, shooting, dribbling, etc he's gold dust.
Palmer is a young lad who creates time on the ball and is a killer infront of goal.
Delap is a cb bully and a killer in the box.
Most of their qualities aren't expected in kids ie, leadership, slowing the game down, perfect decision making, timing runs, etc. Normally you get excited about how skillful a young kid is or if they have a good shot on them. Personally, I think these kids are way ahead on their development and are worthy of the faith people have in them.
Having said that, all it takes is a bad injury, a lack of confidence or poor a single poor judgement on a night out to not fulfill their potential. So sit back and enjoy this crop of talent, our squad and eds, u18s are brimming with it. It's a great f@#king club to be involved with and to support. Not many of us saw this happening over a decade ago. I never thought I'd see an England captain come through city's youth when lakeys career ended, but we live in hope. Let's enjoy probably the most exciting season in the last 5 years, its an unpredictable one with so many ifs and maybes.
 
Don’t underestimate the positive influence his father will have on his development and career.
 
oldius said:
I think that Liam is a natural finisher but he is very, very raw. He is capable of moments of brilliance but also moments of frustration - a bad challenge, a dribble too far, or a failure to press. There is no criticism there, he is just a work in progress and the only question is whether his development is now best served with us or someone else. As things stand, I think that if he is going to get playing time in the cup competitions, then he should stay. If not, I would be in favour of a loan to the Championship.
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Sounds fair comment from what I've seen and heard.
I think you,'ve nailed it.
 
the_tevez_wiggle said:
I understand the hesitation to "big up" our youth players. Yet we are creating an elite crop.
3 of the best young cbs I've seen at their age groups, not just talent but leadership skills as well in thb, doyle and mbete.
Mcatee in cm is elite in every way. Passing, shooting, dribbling, etc he's gold dust.
Palmer is a young lad who creates time on the ball and is a killer infront of goal.
Delap is a cb bully and a killer in the box.
Most of their qualities aren't expected in kids ie, leadership, slowing the game down, perfect decision making, timing runs, etc. Normally you get excited about how skillful a young kid is or if they have a good shot on them. Personally, I think these kids are way ahead on their development and are worthy of the faith people have in them.
Having said that, all it takes is a bad injury, a lack of confidence or poor a single poor judgement on a night out to not fulfill their potential. So sit back and enjoy this crop of talent, our squad and eds, u18s are brimming with it. It's a great f@#king club to be involved with and to support. Not many of us saw this happening over a decade ago. I never thought I'd see an England captain come through city's youth when lakeys career ended, but we live in hope. Let's enjoy probably the most exciting season in the last 5 years, its an unpredictable one with so many ifs and maybes.
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The U16s (a lot of them will be moved up to the U18s this season) are pushing to be even better than the players above them. We've got some real gems coming through at all levels.

I can happily say that I did see it coming a decade ago. The long term planning from the club is astounding and it's all becoming apparent now. It's just too late for anybody to stop us.

I predict that if you loved the past 10 years then grab hold and hold on for your life, it's going to be glorious for the next 10.
 
southamptonblue said:
For what it's worth, I think Broja is pants.....however, your comparing what Delap might do, not what he's done. The more likely guess is that he won't play 30 games the next 2 seasons.....because he won't be fit enough.
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Based on what? Last season he started off with a medical boot on in pre-season, whatever the problem was it wrecked his season but since he's been weaned back in he's looked fine.
 
richards30 said:
is the perfect player for liam to learn from not erling haaland?! Surely beneficial to keep him here and with 5 subs he could get some game time?
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How did Haaland learn? By playing senior football from a young age - he didn’t just sign for the biggest club who wanted him in the best league where he wouldn’t necessarily get the required minutes to develop; his career so far has been very well managed.

Delap potentially made a mistake coming here so young, rather than staying with Derby who’ve got a recent track record of bringing though young talent, and this summer it’s essential he finds a way to secure a move that will guarantee him 30+ games against experienced pros so he can kick-start his development. Burnley on loan would be ideal, with a view to another year if they get promoted.

Having him fully developed by the time Haaland’s release clause is active in 2 years could facilitate a ready-made replacement.
 
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