Marc Cucurella

[TheThirdDeano]

Even Chelsea were having issues with Brighton so put a smart arse statement out. Chelsea’s desperation meant they didn’t walk away like us though.

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Wtf kind of behavior is this?

 

[It'sBlue93:20]

Well Brighton used examples of Walker and Cancelo when we went to then so if Barcelona come in for Bernardo then I'd hope we'd use Cucurella as an example.

Walker had lots of premier league experience and was an international player whereas Cancelo was playing regularly in the UCL for the best team in Italy at the time. Cucurella has had 1 season of premier league experience and played at getafe before that

 

[Kamaro011]

Shows he didnt want to join us and we dont keep or sign players who dont want to be here. Moving on.

he already burned his bridge with the club and their fans by handing the transfer request. To suggest he should hold up will be pretty daft for him, can't blame he join the other when opportunity arises to save his own skin rather than staying on already burning bridges.

 

[Complex Simplicity]

You do understand that's not how football works, right?
£32m is fair value for Zinchenko. £62m for Cucurella is insanity.

If Haaland is worth £51m then how could Grealish cost double?
If Coutinho was worth £140m then Bernardo is worth £250m
If Messi was a free transfer then how could you spend £45M more on Kalvin Phillips.

It's silly. Zinchenko was a player who wanted out and we were happy to facilitate because:
A. He wasn't really a good enough left-back, long term
B. We don't want unhappy players at the club
C. Players being listened to and treated like human beings is a great selling point for the club when looking for recruits.

Also whats the benefit of being a "better player" but a worse left back when you play at left-back?

I get that, but..

Haaland was a release Clause. Completely different.

Brighton obviously thought Cucurella was worth way above 50m, and they've got the money they wanted.

As we say Bernardo is a massive part of our team, if we let him go for 60-80m just because he wants to leave then I would be extremely disappointed. Football is a business.

 

[Complex Simplicity]

Walker had lots of premier league experience and was an international player whereas Cancelo was playing regularly in the UCL for the best team in Italy at the time. Cucurella has had 1 season of premier league experience and played at getafe before that

Exactly.

 

[Keeper!]

When you look at the fee Chelsea paid we've almost give Zinchenko away.

If Cucurella is worth 62m, Zinchenko has to be worth 60m atleast.

Cucurella might be a better Left Back, but Zinchenko is a better Footballer.

35M for Zinchenko was a great deal for us, if he was so good and a bargain why did he not seem to have any other clubs knocking his door down?

 

[It'sBlue93:20]

35M for Zinchenko was a great deal for us, if he was so good and a bargain he did not seem to have any other clubs knocking his door down?

Zinchenko was a fine deal for us. Cucurella majorly overpriced.

 

[RayCTID]

There is a chance Cucurella may not end up playing for Chelsea at LB

 

[Keeper!]

Zinchenko was a fine deal for us. Cucurella majorly overpriced.

Far too much romance about Zinchenko, people thinking he was far better than reality.

 

[Complex Simplicity]

35M for Zinchenko was a great deal for us, if he was so good and a bargain why did he not seem to have any other clubs knocking his door down?

I get the fact not alot of people rate Zin on this forum, but I think you'll be eating your words. I think at Arsenal he will show the Premier League how good he is when played regularly, as will Gabriel Jesus.

 

[waspish]

Just think JWB plays 30 games does well we have a 50m player on our hands[emoji41]

 

[crazyg]

Chelski got fleeced

It's not Chelski anymore.
It's Chel$ea.

 

[Keeper!]

I get the fact not alot of people rate Zin on this forum, but I think you'll be eating your words. I think at Arsenal he will show the Premier League how good he is when played regularly, as will Gabriel Jesus.

A superb little squad player, amazing attitude but often very ordinary and when under pressure at LB a weakness.

 

[RandomJ]

Gutted we didn’t get him as I felt he was the missing piece of the puzzle for our team. Fair play to Brighton though. They wanted silly money and found someone willing to pay it.

 

[Kamaro011]

Just think JWB plays 30 games does well we have a 50m player on our hands[emoji41]

Hope he is not too injury prone this season, that's the only thing that can hinder his development.

 

[Centurions]

This one burnt me, so after this one I’m no longer saying. The information can be 100% correct but then change in a matter of minutes, hours or days.

Some people here know this but a lot of people seem to take offence to it.

I personally wouldn't sweat it all bud, what you say should be obvious to anyone but it seems to be the world we live in now.

 

[BlueBanger]

Far too much romance about Zinchenko, people thinking he was far better than reality.

Based largely off his final performance against villa.

 

[ninjamonkey]

Crazy money but only because I don't see him as a neccessity for Chelsea who have Chilwell and a somewhat competent Alonso. If they were as desperate for a left back as us and not have glaring weaknesses elsewhere that need fixing, then £60 million could provide value. But given they do have issues elsewhere, that £60 million should have gone on a centre back or a forward, they can improve their squad much more with £60 million spent elsewhere than they just have with cucurella. I see it similar to Grealish for us, spent well over the odds on a player that doesn't improve our starting 11.

Anyway, I don't think he was ever the perfect answer for us, a good fit but surely not the only fit. we're looking for cancelo's backup, cucurella himself was a nobody at Getafe 12 months ago, we have to have other targets, Txiki needs to get moving on this.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Now we can finally close this thread.

This thread never hurt anybody. It's the people posting in it who have turned it into a circus. Maybe we should be closing a few of them.

 

[BlueBanger]

35M for Zinchenko was a great deal for us, if he was so good and a bargain why did he not seem to have any other clubs knocking his door down?

Probably because not many teams knew his best position...he was a midfielder covering LB. Arteta in a somewhat unique position in that regard.