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Just seen Joshua acting like a complete bellend after the fight with that speech. What a pathetic sore loser, just surprised he doesn't support the rags going off like that
 
Yeah he lost it again on the way back to the dressing room after someone shouted "keep it professional"
 
Felt a bit for aj there, he fought the best he could and I think he was just disappointed it wasn't enough. Make no mistake, that performance beats nearly every hw out there that isn't fury or usyk and I think aj was just trying to come to term with that.
He could go and challenge whyte for the grudge fight or maybe try and get the bronze bomber out, but it won't be for belts and it's whether he can accept that or not.

Usyk, wow what can you say. There are true hws that have been dropped by those shots and never returned. This guy is really really special.
 
FantasyIreland said:
As an alleged elite fighter....How? he has been beaten again.....while this time revealing a seriously unbalanced mind.
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Much as I don't like to use this analogy, this thought process is like calling the Dippers 'a shit team cos they won the Prem once when we were poor that season'.

They've been constantly outclassed by our better team.

That doesn't make them shit, but probably be perpetual champions in another era.

Come on, thread, let's not be silly with the Joshua comments (not picking on you, FI).
 
crooky said:
I think Joshua's stock went up this evening despite him losing. I'd still like any combination of the following fighters to have a fight.

Fury
Usyk
Joshua
Wilder
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I’d love to see a Spring 2023 consisting of Fury v Usyk and Joshua v Wilder.

One of the two main reasons boxing is nowhere near as good a sport as it should be (the main one being rigged results) is that you never get to see all the good fighters fighting each other.

Could you imagine Khaldoon coming out and saying “I don’t think we’ll be playing Liverpool this season, they’re running scared and the money isn’t good enough anyway”?!

All that shit makes a mockery of boxing.

Did Sugar Ray Robinson ever duck a fight in his life… he took everybody multiple times to show he was the greatest. 201 fights he had in his career! These jokers are doing well if they get to 40 fights.

That Pacquiao never fought Mayweather when they were both in their primes is a disgrace to the sport.
 
shevtheblue said:
Felt a bit for aj there, he fought the best he could and I think he was just disappointed it wasn't enough. Make no mistake, that performance beats nearly every hw out there that isn't fury or usyk and I think aj was just trying to come to term with that.
He could go and challenge whyte for the grudge fight or maybe try and get the bronze bomber out, but it won't be for belts and it's whether he can accept that or not.

Usyk, wow what can you say. There are true hws that have been dropped by those shots and never returned. This guy is really really special.
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I'd agree with this and something I was about to post.

I've, yet, to see the post fight interview (I switched straight over to UFC), but it strikes me from what I'm reading on here, he was pissed off in not letting himself have a proper crack at Usyk.

Watching the fight, he seemed to be balancing pace and timing against being knocked out as a fear. He walked through the best Usyk could give him, clearly hurt him, but still waited.

That frustration with himself would permeate being 'nice'. I think this loss of a potential win will change him, change his mindset and force him to do things fully differently and not half commit.

I know if it were me, I'd be fucked off with myself more than anyone else.

Maybe I'll retract my comments after watching the video, maybe it will reaffirm it. We'll see.
 
The only way back for AJ now is a blockbuster with Audley Harrison he too won a gold medal so really it doesn’t guarantee greatness.To see him wrapping the Ukrainian flag around himself showed he is not the destructive fighter he needs to be however nice the gesture appears he is not ruthless enough to be a great champion
 
BigJoe#1 said:
l just don't know where the split decision came from.

Nearly everyone apart from a judge had Usyk winning unanimously, I aint no boxing expert but you didn't need to be to see that.

Apart from Round 9 Usyk seemed to be able to contain Joshua, although Joshua did land a tremendous punch in I think R4.... which Usyk rode very well.
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The judges in boxing are absolute joke. 115-112 that judge should be fucked off! The Badou Jack fight was an absolute shocked too from the judged.
 
Bigga said:
Much as I don't like to use this analogy, this thought process is like calling the Dippers 'a shit team cos they won the Prem once when we were poor that season'.

They've been constantly outclassed by our better team.

That doesn't make them shit, but probably be perpetual champions in another era.

Come on, thread, let's not be silly with the Joshua comments (not picking on you, FI).
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I’ll never understand the idea that a boxer needs to retire after he’s lost a few fights.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I’ll never understand the idea that a boxer needs to retire after he’s lost a few fights.
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The problem Joshua has now is where does he go from here?

Whilst Usyk and Fury are about they are by far the best in the division and Joshua can't beat either of them. He's a prize fighter he wants to be heavyweight champion of the world. Still big fights out there for Joshua to take, Personally I think it's best for hos own health that avoids Wilder at all costs. It's worrying the speech he had last night, The last thing he needs is a right hand from Wilder who has the best one punch power in the division.
 
bluemoon32 said:
The judge who gave it to Joshua had obviously made their mind up before the fight or had a bet on a split decision ffs
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Absolutely horrendous and really puts people off boxing. The Badou Jack fight was a disgrace too. Felt sorry for Zhang as well no way he lost that fight either.

But to score Joshua 115-112 is an absolute disgrace and needs to be called out in boxing.
 
Bigga said:
There's a real tangible difference to calling someone 'not good enough' to calling them a 'shithouse'.

There are some real fat fuckers/ shitty people in real life on here making crappy comments.

That's my issue.
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Fair enough, mate. I hadn't noticed the post with someone calling him a shithouse.

With that in mind I see the point you were making.
 
Bigga said:
Much as I don't like to use this analogy, this thought process is like calling the Dippers 'a shit team cos they won the Prem once when we were poor that season'.

They've been constantly outclassed by our better team.

That doesn't make them shit, but probably be perpetual champions in another era.

Come on, thread, let's not be silly with the Joshua comments (not picking on you, FI).
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Reading in between the lines, he's definitely picking on you @FantasyIreland ........... ;-)
 
Bigga said:
As I've said, it depends on the type of commentary issued out. Joshua is, clearly, not 'shit'.

As I've said in the thread, this fight came too early for him with his switch of trainer. He still has potential, but has to commit and undo the plodding foot planting style he's learned over the last 10 years. He moved his head more than I've ever seen him do before and had a hugely improved gas tank.

His issue is the waiting on pulling the trigger which saps the tank for him. He has to address that.

He has the tools, it's just down to his learning curve now.

That's a critique and fair.
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Joshua definitely isn't "shit".

He's in a really difficult situation because he's constantly in the limelight, The media, pundits and public constantly on his case so it certainly can't be easy. The media especially have bigged him up from an early age so massive pressure on him to perform.

He's far from the finished article, He's 32 years of age I know heavyweights can stick around longer than most other weight divisions but personally I think it's too late for him to get anywhere near the level of a Fury or Usyk. They set the standard both are absolutely sensational fighters. Unfortunately for Joshua I think he stayed far too long with Rob McCracken he took Joshua as far as he could years ago imo.
 
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