Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

I'm having to rebuild after a separation so have been renting for two years but I think I'm going to look into buying again this year. May have to be a small flat but I need to stay relatively close to the kids and friends I have around these parts (in which I've lived for one 25 years).
Fancy a new project anyway and struggle not being able to put my stamp on things when renting.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
Manchester is the highest inflation on renting in the country, some have it at 23%. And yeah south Manchester is the highest in Manchester. (I own in Levy having moved from the centre about five years ago, just about the best decision I could have made).
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I know, im renting at present and its £625 for a small 2 bed flat. Its at least 300 more for a bigger flat.

My brother keen to be a homeowner is having to move to atherton with his partner
 
somapop said:
I'm having to rebuild after a separation so have been renting for two years but I think I'm going to look into buying again this year. May have to be a small flat but I need to stay relatively close to the kids and friends I have around these parts (in which I've lived for one 25 years).
Fancy a new project anyway and struggle not being able to put my stamp on things when renting.
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If I was you I’d wait. All the signs point to a recession and dropping house prices medium to long term. If you buy now or this year, you’ll be buying at peak prices. I did that before the last recession and got burnt. The value of my previous house eventually dropped by £30K. I eventually made that back and more and sold up. It’s all about timing, watching the market, and luck. London will go first, and then it will spread to the regions. Good luck.
 
somapop said:
I'm having to rebuild after a separation so have been renting for two years but I think I'm going to look into buying again this year. May have to be a small flat but I need to stay relatively close to the kids and friends I have around these parts (in which I've lived for one 25 years).
Fancy a new project anyway and struggle not being able to put my stamp on things when renting.
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I don’t know your financial situation but try and find a rundown house or something with potential get a mortgage and do it up yourself mate, get family n friends to help you better than buying a flat in the centre imho.
 
balotellishaircut said:
I don’t know your financial situation but try and find a rundown house or something with potential get a mortgage and do it up yourself mate, get family n friends to help you better than buying a flat in the centre imho.
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Yeah, I actually did a big refurb on the old family home (which she eventually sold and moved on).
I did the electrics (full rewire), fancy lighting, carpentry (I watched too many Grand Designs). I'd take washing machines apart when they broke and fixed them up etc.

I have a good mate who does stuff like this and would help (I'd pay and we'd work together) and has thousands and thousands of pounds of tools (it's what he does for a living).
That's def the plan.
This flat has served me well in the end (and the fact it's in a busy area helped with those early days of loneliness) but I have no space outside - no balcony....just a window to stare out of!
 
Even rundown houses aren’t cheap anymore. At house auctions everyone has become Nick Knowles or wants to be a property developer thinking they’re going to make an instant killing via a couple of tins of paint.

And to think, before the Commonwealth games in 2002, you could buy a house in East Manchester for a £1.
 
somapop said:
Yeah, I actually did a big refurb on the old family home (which she eventually sold and moved on).
I did the electrics (full rewire), fancy lighting, carpentry (I watched too many Grand Designs). I'd take washing machines apart when they broke and fixed them up etc.

I have a good mate who does stuff like this and would help (I'd pay and we'd work together) and has thousands and thousands of pounds of tools (it's what he does for a living).
That's def the plan.
This flat has served me well in the end (and the fact it's in a busy area helped with those early days of loneliness) but I have no space outside - no balcony....just a window to stare out of!
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Well there you go, you have experience in doing this and you have a mate that does it for a living, just go out there looking at properties that are rundown with potential and hopefully you can get it at a competitive price, and you can put your stamp on it, plus most houses have gardens great for when you see your kids, I can tell your going to do this, good luck @somapop you’ll get there.
 
balotellishaircut said:
Well there you go, you have experience in doing this and you have a mate that does it for a living, just go out there looking at properties that are rundown with potential and hopefully you can get it at a competitive price, and you can put your stamp on it, plus most houses have gardens great for when you see your kids, I can tell your going to do this, good luck @somapop you’ll get there.
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Thanks mate.
Yeah, a mix of creativity and drive helps I guess.
Trouble is I found a new career just over 18 months ago and there's so much to learn in this that my downtimes is even more important.
Life's too short so it's a balance of having a little fun in the now and creating a better future.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
Funny isn't it. Since the pandemic has been over I've spent more time in Ancoats, Salford, Redbank, and Picadilly than I have in what I still consider "the centre". When I first arrived in Manchester you wouldn't have been going to those places unless you were looking for drugs or prostitutes (or, once in a while, an illegal rave).
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Some good bars and restaurants in Ancoats these days, it was like that when I was growing up, not drunk on Redbank for years.
 
Sheikh rattle and roll said:
I’ve been informed the club have just given some money to an internal part of the club to conduct a feasibility study regarding expanding the stand
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Any variance to the existing planning approval would require another planning application. This would include incorporating a new hotel and possibly even a 2 tier stand (if capacity was increased). This would mean the club commissioning new surveys, reports, drawings etc. Quite a lot of work which would be costly - a £1M budget maybe for this. If a new application is made then we would all be aware of the clubs proposals in advance of any development works. Singles or doubles BTW :)
 
Colnago said:
Any variance to the existing planning approval would require another planning application. This would include incorporating a new hotel and possibly even a 2 tier stand (if capacity was increased). This would mean the club commissioning new surveys, reports, drawings etc. Quite a lot of work which would be costly - a £1M budget maybe for this. If a new application is made then we would all be aware of the clubs proposals in advance of any development works. Singles or doubles BTW :)
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It‘s a personal opinion but, I’d anticipate that the North Stand will pretty much replicate the South Stand structurally…. It makes no sense to design something different and I hear all the views re single tier stands etc… but after years of looking at the mess Maine Road became - I think keeping the Etihad uniform really works. At the back of the N Stand I’ve no doubt, a store, a hotel and City square will all be incorporated, but those can be done as add onto the original South Stand design.
 
Colnago said:
Any variance to the existing planning approval would require another planning application. This would include incorporating a new hotel and possibly even a 2 tier stand (if capacity was increased). This would mean the club commissioning new surveys, reports, drawings etc. Quite a lot of work which would be costly - a £1M budget maybe for this. If a new application is made then we would all be aware of the clubs proposals in advance of any development works. Singles or doubles BTW :)
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Are the previous planning permissions not expired.
 
bluesmith said:
Are the previous planning permissions not expired.
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No. Because the South Stand has been developed this means that that particular approval has been implemented and the rest of the development can proceed in a timescale to suit the club. However any variances to the approved drawings will probably require another planning application. Certainly a significant variance would and even modest changes would require either a Section 73 or Non Material Amendment application. The point being that if the club decides to do anything different then we would all be aware of the proposals in advance as the applications would be in the public domain. It would be nice to see some movement on this in the short to medium term.
 
nmc said:
It‘s a personal opinion but, I’d anticipate that the North Stand will pretty much replicate the South Stand structurally…. It makes no sense to design something different and I hear all the views re single tier stands etc… but after years of looking at the mess Maine Road became - I think keeping the Etihad uniform really works. At the back of the N Stand I’ve no doubt, a store, a hotel and City square will all be incorporated, but those can be done as add onto the original South Stand design.
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I have not looked at the approved drawings in a long time but my recollection of the North Stand design is that the footprint of the stand is quite large - I think it may take up all of City Square extending almost up to the club shop - which would mean the club shop possibly being relocated into the stand. Such a large extension would likely require infrastructure upgrades and any underground services diverting. I seem to recall a poster on here mentioning that they were potentially looking at electrical infrastructure upgrade works later on in the year. Again it would not be unusual for these types of capacity upgrades to be undertaken in advance of the main contract works.
 
jrb said:
I appreciate this is off topic, but it’s 2am, I’m on the 2nd week of my 2 week holiday, and I’ve been scooping since 5pm, watching footy and reading BM. :-)

Some of you will know what Greengate looks like now. Still a work in progress. Towers going up, great public realm, landscaping, etc coming forward.

This is what Greengate used to look like. Ghost Car Park City. Note the temporary lake, far right, which is no longer there.

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Back to topic.

Coop Live - Instagram

A coupe of weeks old, but still relevant.

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Many years ago I lived in one of those block of flats for a brief period. It was a bit of a wasteland back then - and it's great to see the area is rapidly evolving into quite a nice urban neighbourhood now.
 
Colnago said:
Any variance to the existing planning approval would require another planning application. This would include incorporating a new hotel and possibly even a 2 tier stand (if capacity was increased). This would mean the club commissioning new surveys, reports, drawings etc. Quite a lot of work which would be costly - a £1M budget maybe for this. If a new application is made then we would all be aware of the clubs proposals in advance of any development works. Singles or doubles BTW :)
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1M you say, f#ck that, if scousers can claim 50M for digging a hole and planting a tree in Stanley Park.....
 
Colnago said:
Any variance to the existing planning approval would require another planning application. This would include incorporating a new hotel and possibly even a 2 tier stand (if capacity was increased). This would mean the club commissioning new surveys, reports, drawings etc. Quite a lot of work which would be costly - a £1M budget maybe for this. If a new application is made then we would all be aware of the clubs proposals in advance of any development works. Singles or doubles BTW :)
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£1m budget your having a laugh, the scousers cost £50m.
 
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