Queen Elizabeth II

Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
When Diana was killed someone came up to me the following day — a French lady — and offered me her condolences. I said to her, as courteously as I know how, “Look, I know what you're saying comes from a good place, but she wasn't a friend of mine, and she wasn't a member of my family. It's always tragic when a young woman and mother gets killed in a car crash. I'm sincerely sorry for her children. But I am not, personally, mourning.”
Frankly, that's still pretty much my position today. Let those for whom the Queen meant a lot — and I respect them — mourn in their way. She's been around as long as I have, because she was crowned in 1953, the year I was born. It's going to be strange without her, and stranger still with Charles at the helm. But also, interesting.
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Not that I disagree with you particularly but wouldn't it have just been easier and more polite to say thanks and walk away from the French woman?
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
When Diana was killed someone came up to me the following day — a French lady — and offered me her condolences. I said to her, as courteously as I know how, “Look, I know what you're saying comes from a good place, but she wasn't a friend of mine, and she wasn't a member of my family. It's always tragic when a young woman and mother gets killed in a car crash. I'm sincerely sorry for her children. But I am not, personally, mourning.”
Frankly, that's still pretty much my position today. Let those for whom the Queen meant a lot — and I respect them — mourn in their way. She's been around as long as I have, because she was crowned in 1953, the year I was born. It's going to be strange without her, and stranger still with Charles at the helm. But also, interesting.
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Could have just said

Thank you
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
It makes no difference a president, prime minister or monarchy it’s all the same. There is corruption they can change the rules whenever it suits.
Charles will make a great king and William will follow him we are safe at least for the next 100 years.
There private/family life is just that private Charles will do a great job the Queen saw to it by example.
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Believe it or not, Charles is seen as having paved the way for the royal visit over here.
He first visited as far back as 1995 and has expressed his desire to visit all 32 counties.
He likes it here I believe.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
‘Glue that holds us together’ was probably a bit OTT, but she was definitely a stabilising and unifying force for many - and she has gone at a time when we are increasingly fracturing as a society.

I think we are fucked as a nation for a number of reasons and I believe and her passing will accelerate that - and prove to be a pivotal staging post in our decline.

Hope I’m wrong.
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I keep holding to a naive hope that somehow/somewhere there will be an inflection point that sets us on the right path again; whilst watershed moments like these can sometimes signify an opportunity for renewal, sadly I don't see anyone or anything on the near horizon capable of leading that very difficult change.
 
I hope we see more of Charles now he's king. He needs to have a similar presence to his mother. He needs to unify our nation as we face great financial turmoil.
 
Stephen230 said:
It doesn’t matter how deeply you’re mourning, you can only watch one TV Channel at a time.
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But it's not just about who's watching, channels will want to have their own say and coverage.

As you say you can only watch one TV channel at a time but you can also choose to not watch it.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
Wanting to carry on about your normal day to day life isn't making it all about you. It's about not wanting to make it all about someone else.

Just because you don't want to watch Homes Under the Hammer, it doesn't mean others shouldn't be able to. Do you not see the irony in what you're saying?

There's no need to burden other people with your mourning because nobody is stopping you and like minded people from feeling that way, certainly not Dion Dublin.
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Just turn to BBC2 if you want to watch Homes under the hammer! :-)
 
inbetween said:
Yeah there's nothing I'd prefer more than to be watching Homes Under The Hammer right now.....

For gods sake many people are feeling a loss, look at the hundreds of thousands at Buckingham Palace. You might not be feeling a loss but it's not all about you. The media and the institutions we depend upon are all underpinned by the Queen and now she has died.

Some people have given their lives defending the country, swearing an allegiance to the Queen and what that stands for. Just a tiny bit of respect for a short period is all that's required and then we can go back to watching Jeremy Kyle or whatever shite is seemingly more important.
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Hundreds of thousands?

I'm not even sure there's what most would call a crowd.

I'm guessing that most people share in sadness, but aren't really "mourning".

And the oath of allegiance is taken by armed forces, MPs and peers, judges, magistrates, clergy, and immigrants becoming citizens. And it's to the monarch and to her/his heirs and successors.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
It makes no difference a president, prime minister or monarchy it’s all the same. There is corruption they can change the rules whenever it suits.
Charles will make a great king and William will follow him we are safe at least for the next 100 years.
There private/family life is just that private Charles will do a great job the Queen saw to it by example.
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100 years is optimistic, isn’t it, unless you think William will live to 140?
 
threespires said:
I keep holding to a naive hope that somehow/somewhere there will be an inflection point that sets us on the right path again; whilst watershed moments like these can sometimes signify an opportunity for renewal, sadly I don't see anyone or anything on the near horizon capable of leading that very difficult change.
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The problem is that, after a respectful period, the politicans will start trying to exploit the vacuum. We have now got another 12 months leading up to the Coronation. They will use this period, like Covid, like Brexit, to deflect attention away from our totally broken political system. It will be another opportunity for people to wallow in nostalgia and past glories which, to be fair, so many of us love to do.
This should be an opportunity to totally change the political structure of the country, slim down the monarchy, get rid of all the unelected hangers-on in government, introduce a fair voting system, and start to modernise the country so we can compete properly with the rest of the world. Perhaps Charles and William themselves can be a force for change. As you say we can't go on like this, just living in the past.
 
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