Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

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You can imagine some players with plenty of medals, international experience etc., looking at Potter when things are not going well thinking, "Who are you? You managed in Scandiwegia for a while and then managed a team towards the bottom end of the PL. What have you won?"

In addition to that, he manages a team that plays like an underdog. It's very different, and more difficult, managing a team that is expected to dominate and win a game. Big gamble, like you said. I always thought that was the issue Moyes had.

It would be a big risk for Potter as the Chelsea owner lacks patience and seemingly has no strategy in terms of buying players.
He can fix those questions by coming in and winning trophies straight away. If he does that, he tells the players and the world exactly who he is. If he doesn't, he also then tells the players and the world exactly who he is.
 
He can fix those questions by coming in and winning trophies straight away. If he does that, he tells the players and the world exactly who he is. If he doesn't, he also then tells the players and the world exactly who he is.

Well, yes and no… He can only ‘win trophies’ with the full consent and participation of the players. Which I suppose was the point that the previous post was making.
And that of course is true of any manager. Mourinho is a classic case of a manager who initially has the full consent — players totally bought into him and what he was telling them, and at some of the biggest clubs in the world — and then inevitably alienates them. (That wasn't always the case, by the way).
It's a question of authority. Potter had it at Brighton, within the terms that are set by a club of that size. Will he have it at Chelsea?
 
Well, yes and no… He can only ‘win trophies’ with the full consent and participation of the players. Which I suppose was the point that the previous post was making.
And that of course is true of any manager. Mourinho is a classic case of a manager who initially has the full consent — players totally bought into him and what he was telling them, and at some of the biggest clubs in the world — and then inevitably alienates them. (That wasn't always the case, by the way).
It's a question of authority. Potter had it at Brighton, within the terms that are set by a club of that size. Will he have it at Chelsea?
There has been a lot of player churn at Chelsea so now might be a good time for a bright young thing style manager. I don't think they still have player power issues to the extent they did when Terry & co. were there.
 
All the reports do suggest firing Tuchel was not a footballing decision. It was a decision based on the sporting management culture of the organisation, and what they wanted that to be at Chelsea moving forward.

Boehly wanted a more collaborative culture where the coach along with the DoF (when we get one), owners etc are in open communication about the direction of the club. Tuchel, however, preferred the previous set up he enjoyed where he mostly just had one on one conversations with Cech as his go-to person, who acted as the go-between with Tuchel and the board. That's kind of fair enough on both sides, but according to reports, it did lead to friction between Tuchel and Boehly because Boehly wasn't getting what he wanted from Tuchel and Tuchel was either uncomfortable or unwilling to work in that kind of collaborative set up.

Tuchel has openly spoken about how much he felt his set up at Chelsea was a breath of fresh air, where he was just left to coach the team and then have a conversation with Cech every now and again when his input was required by the board. He's a great coach, tactically fantastic but if he can't or is unwilling to communicate with more people and be part of a bigger group rather than just work in isolation with the players, then I understand why Boehly couldn't see a future with him.
That’s a lot of words to tell us you’re at the Holistic phase of transition.

;-)
 
There has been a lot of player churn at Chelsea so now might be a good time for a bright young thing style manager. I don't think they still have player power issues to the extent they did when Terry & co. were there.

Certainly Terry being totally onside with Mou was a part of the latter's success in phase 1 of the Chelsea experiment. It's always useful to have a strong ally in the dressing room. Although Pep doesn't seem to need it.
 
If they were smart, they would give Vieira the job?

People like Aubameyang and Havertz ain't responding to someone like Potter.

Zidane is probably the Hollywood choice.
Vieira has too much history/love for Arsenal to take the reins at Stamford Bridge. He'd never do it. He also seems to be enjoying his current gig. He would do a good job though
 
Well, yes and no… He can only ‘win trophies’ with the full consent and participation of the players. Which I suppose was the point that the previous post was making.
And that of course is true of any manager. Mourinho is a classic case of a manager who initially has the full consent — players totally bought into him and what he was telling them, and at some of the biggest clubs in the world — and then inevitably alienates them. (That wasn't always the case, by the way).
It's a question of authority. Potter had it at Brighton, within the terms that are set by a club of that size. Will he have it at Chelsea?
Initially I would expect he will, but he'll have to hit the ground running to keep it.
 
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