Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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I think this is what tipped them over the edge.

The response to this post didn't go down too well it would seem.

We've lost out narrowly and agonisingly to them in the league a few times now and no fucking doubt it has hurt, but I've always had the feeling of it was expected given what we're up against. Had we lost out narrowly to United for example, it would've hurt 10 times more, but in a strange kind of way it might have been a more enjoyable and thrilling ride (our hearts might not agree, but in terms of the rivalry actually being genuine).

Fuck them. Gang of cheating c*nts.

Quote from: Cityfan2 on Yesterday at 12:17:34 am
Sort of agree with you in part.
You’ve given us a good run for 2 out of the last 5 years and in 2014, but our real rivals over the last 15 years have been Chelsea who’ve won it 3 times in that period. You’ve been a bit like Leicester - taking advantage of everyone having a poor season during the pandemic. Shame no one was there to see it.
Looks like this year it’s going to be us and the North London pair fighting for the title and you can rekindle your rivalry with United in the fight for 4th.
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Ironic that a response to them pretending they don't see us as rivals with a post in a similar vein would boil their piss so much.
 
old blue said:
My Ma always referred to them as the blob shops. No idea why.
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Because they sold blobs of course.
A blob was a strong cheap Aussie white wine served hot with lemon iirc from my youth.
Can’t remember if the drinks menu called them blobs or not but that’s what the punters called them and that’s what you got served if you asked for one at the bar.

Very nice as a winter drink but got you seriously drunk.
 
bluenova said:
I am certain that 10% fake tickets would cause a problem, but if you look at the article, there was clearly always going to be problems.

You've got fans being funnelled into ever narrower spaces, and by the time they get to the ticket check, there are five lines checking bags then tickets and if there's a problem you're trying to send people backwards through the same space.

That's similar to the security lines at one entrance at the Etihad, and they're easily spread out enough to deal with issues.

It's a system that would break down whatever the situation - and even with 10% fakes, that's 90% with legit tickets. If this situation had happened to you, do you think you'd be wanting to accept responsibility on a personal level for other fans being scumbags?
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You’ve missed the point I said that the system is probably designed for 0.5-1% not 10%.

I tell you what I’d do is call out the cunts for spoiling possibly the greatest night of my life.

Has anyone been brought to task for using a fake ticket? Will scousers use fake tickets again? Will they say we need to hold uefa, the French to task but we urgently need assistance with ridding fake tickets from our fan base to reduce the risk of this occurring.

It’s always fucking them.
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
Because they sold blobs of course.
A blob was a strong cheap Aussie white wine served hot with lemon iirc from my youth.
Can’t remember if the drinks menu called them blobs or not but that’s what the punters called them and that’s what you got served if you asked for one at the bar.

Very nice as a winter drink but got you seriously drunk.
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I remember Yates wanting to call them All-Ins and wouldn't serve you until you asked for them as such.

Had a session one time on Aussie Whites (no hot water and lemon). Absolutely disgusting stuff. Threw up everywhere.
 
cheekybids said:
You’ve missed the point I said that the system is probably designed for 0.5-1% not 10%.

I tell you what I’d do is call out the cunts for spoiling possibly the greatest night of my life.

Has anyone been brought to task for using a fake ticket? Will scousers use fake tickets again? Will they say we need to hold uefa, the French to task but we urgently need assistance with ridding fake tickets from our fan base to reduce the risk of this occurring.

It’s always fucking them.
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I haven't missed your point at all - that system doesn't look like it was designed even for things to go perfectly. Half the changes they made were due to problems they'd had at previous events. If you head to the end you'll see they had plenty of empty ticket/security checks on the route that they'd actually guided people away from.

Someone on this thread has just suggested that the Merseyside police did ask them to prepare for fake tickets, rather than fan violence, so it sounds like they agreed with you.

When I first read about the situation, and saw the issues with fake tickets, and the people bragging about jibbing in, I was surprised that more Liverpool fans weren't calling them out, and I felt the same as you - if 10% of tickets were fake that fucks things up massively, but I genuinely can't see how the system they used deals with any problems at all. Look at the bag/ticket check, and ask yourself where even 150 people with fake tickets, or all the people who had bags the wrong size etc. would have gone. No-one was heading back through that crowd, as it was only going to get more compressed.

I'm suggesting that if that had happened to you, your first thought would not be to say "I accept blame because some fans of my club are scumbags and bought fake tickets". I might be angry and call people out about it, but frankly, I don't see how anyone can read through that article, look at those pictures, and say that the fans who were stuck would argue that the main thing that went wrong was fans with no tickets.
 
bennyboy said:
A wee bit of improvements needed.
Great place on a sunny day but looks a state when you look closely at the side of the pier.
Love sitting on a bench looking out to the sea on a sunny day in the Northern area.
Fleetwood and Cleveleys like strolling about as well.
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Meant more the atmosphere, sat there with a drink. Prefer going Rhos, Llandudno etc but still visit there
 
bluenova said:
I haven't missed your point at all - that system doesn't look like it was designed even for things to go perfectly. Half the changes they made were due to problems they'd had at previous events. If you head to the end you'll see they had plenty of empty ticket/security checks on the route that they'd actually guided people away from.

Someone on this thread has just suggested that the Merseyside police did ask them to prepare for fake tickets, rather than fan violence, so it sounds like they agreed with you.

When I first read about the situation, and saw the issues with fake tickets, and the people bragging about jibbing in, I was surprised that more Liverpool fans weren't calling them out, and I felt the same as you - if 10% of tickets were fake that fucks things up massively, but I genuinely can't see how the system they used deals with any problems at all. Look at the bag/ticket check, and ask yourself where even 150 people with fake tickets, or all the people who had bags the wrong size etc. would have gone. No-one was heading back through that crowd, as it was only going to get more compressed.

I'm suggesting that if that had happened to you, your first thought would not be to say "I accept blame because some fans of my club are scumbags and bought fake tickets". I might be angry and call people out about it, but frankly, I don't see how anyone can read through that article, look at those pictures, and say that the fans who were stuck would argue that the main thing that went wrong was fans with no tickets.
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I believe they could cope with 150 as hey had 10x times that.
If it happened to me I’d be saying I want to know who sat in my seat & how were they allowed?
 
bluenova said:
I might be angry and call people out about it, but frankly, I don't see how anyone can read through that article, look at those pictures, and say that the fans who were stuck would argue that the main thing that went wrong was fans with no tickets.
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Maybe not the main thing but certainly a significant contributory factor. Seems like there's a level of scousewashing by omission in that article even if the rest of it is fairly accurate.
 
bluelol said:
Oh dear, I don't think the dippers like us, never mind let's talk about gardening for a change.!
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Thats wonderful, I admit I had let my garden go abit and so had to get someone in to sort it out. Some new beds dug out, some nice buxus and some heathers to go inbetween. Alot tidier now.
 
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